I guess so!!! I suppose in a lot of cases the people don’t have much money to pay an attorney and they may not imagine the record doing well. Maybe nowdays the idea of being fleeced by a contract is more well-known so people would ask around about what kinds of deals you can make. What a terrible story!
A thread running on the flute forum around a month ago (Kevin Krell looking to swap his last few WFO CDs for other CDs) may have some useful comments on the state of the ownership Irish Music etc.
Maybe they need to take a note 
from a US pop singer and go on as “The Artists Formerly Known as the Bothy Band”. They’ll also need to come up with a goofy symbol to go with the name. 
dave boling
7 - Seachtar… their original name… I’d go and see them!
PD.
I thought they DID do a reunion concert or two a few years back, though they were missing one fairly important player…Paddy Keenan I believe, who was on tour elsewhere 
If they called themselves Seachtar they’d have to use both fiddlers (Peoples and Burke) or else convince Tony MacMahon to join them again so they could get the numbers up to seven!
If they’d get Tony McMahon the ymay as well go the whole hog and get Peter Browne back too.
Wasn’t Paddy Glackin playing with them too when they were doing Dublin gigs? Peter Browne filled in for Paddy Keenan on occasion and was immortalized on the BB Live in Paris recording.
Yes, Glackin was their first fiddler; he left around the same time MacMahon did, when the band decided to go professional.
I thought it was more a case of Peter Browne being the piper of the group gigging in various line-ups before Keenan joined and they became the Bothy Band (the article on Keenan in the ‘Blooming Meadows’ has him as occasional ‘stand-in’ for Browne). There is a pre-Bothy recording, sixteen-ninetyone with some of the classic Bothy arrangements already roughly in place, which has Browne as a piper. I have the lp, which also has tracks by the Castle Ceiliband. Interestingly some of the Castle tunes became Bothy classics as well.
Peter Browne gets a mention in the ‘special thanks’ column but other than that I don’t feel he’s ‘immortalised’ on the Paris recording (again, I have the original lp). Or am I completely off track here?
For a period ('76/'77) Peter Browne played flute with the band. He was subbing for Matt Molloy who was side-lined with an illness.
As I said I got my information from a former member but it’s like five years ago so maybe they did a reunion concert after that. Without Keenan it’s not really The Bothy Band is it? Anyway I’m glad I was there when they did a gig in Holland in 1979 or something like that. Yes I’m that old 
I found a picture I took at that festival here it is for your enjoyment.
Evertjan
Jim, I think you’re refering to the “Live in Concert” recording released by the BBC in which one of the concerts featured sports Peter Browne.
1691 is indeed a fine record, well worth the search to find it. On a side note, I happened to listen to the Castle Ceili Band “solo” LP today which I borrowed from a friend, which has fantastic playing and a wild front cover.
The Bothy Band - Live In Concert
Recorded at the Paris Theatre July 15, 1976 (Peter Brown on pipes)
1 Martin Wynne’s/ The Longford Tinker 2:50
2 Two Jigs/ The Kid On The Mountain 3:44
3 Patsy Geary’s/ Coleman Cross 3:12
4 Sixteen Come Next Sunday 3:39
5 Michael Gorman’s/ Road To Lisdonnvarna/ Joe Cooley’s 4:21
(Frieze Britches is also included after Michael Gorman’s)
6 Lucy Campbell/ The Laurel Tree 3:35
7 Fionnghuala 1:56
8 Farewell To Erin 3:36
9 The Kesh Jig/ Give Us A Drink Of Water/
The Flower Of The Flock/ Famous Ballymote 4:54
Recorded at Kilburn National July 24, 1978 (Paddy Keenan on pipes)
10 The Tar Road To Silgo/ Paddy Clancy’s 3:11
11 The Maids Of Mitchelstown 3:43
12 I Wish My Love Was A Red Red Rose 3:00
13 Pipe Solo: Garret Barry’s/ The Bucks Of Oranmore 3:11
14 The Morning Star/ The Fishermans Lilt/
The Druken Landlady 4:20
15 Do You Love An Apple? 3:32
16 A Jig And Five Reels: Roger Sherlock’s/ Around The World/
Rip The Calico/ Martin Wayne’s/ Enchanted Lady/ HolyLand 6:45
The BB was here in Chicago in Oct, 1976 - two concerts, one Northside and one Southside. Could not have been 50 people there and I had called and gotten two people to attend after spotting it in the Friday newspaper. My first traditonal Irish music concert.
Triona Ni Domhnaill stayed with Michael Flatlely’s parents. She came down in jeans to leave for the concert and was told by Mrs F to go back upstairs and put on a dress (she did!).
This is a really nice photo for a number of reasons. Take good care of it!
There you have it I was thinking of ‘Afterhours’ also in Paris.
The other CD I was talking about is a French released one, it has both the Castle and sixty-ninetyone. 1691 were on that occasion: Peter Browne, Triona ni, Matt Molloy, Tommy Peoples and Liam Weldon (both Donal Lunny and Tony mcMahon were part of the line up over time as well). The Castle (here:Michael Tubridy, Joe Ryan, Charlie Lennon, Paddy O Brien and Mick O Connor) has half the tracks on the lp including The Kesh, Paddy Clancy’s, Coleman Cross, Tear the Callico and others that went seamlessly into the Bothy repertoire. I have had this lp since the late 70s-early80s. I am not sure it’s the actual 1691 album which dates back to 1972.
Peter,
That is always something that has confused me. So the 1691/CCB CD is a compilation and not an original album? I could never figure out why it went back and forth between the two bands like it does. Are the CCB tracks featured on the 1691 CD from their Comhalthas LP, or from somewhere else? Or am I just getting more confused?
Does anyone know when the Comhalthas Castle Ceili Band LP was released? It doesn’t have a date on it.
Philip
I am not quite sure, I was browing around earlier this morning and only found references to a 1691 album from 1972, without mention of the Castle. The lp I have is a French edition (I probably bought it in France or Belgium at the time), without date. I more or less assumed it is a sort of compilation but I don’t actually know the finer detail. What is obvious though is that the particular group of people was long in action in varying formats and under different names before Paddy Keenan joined permanently and they became the Bothy Band.
The Castle tracks are not the same as another recording I know (which may or may not be the Comhaltas recording you mention), on that they had a different line up (John Kelly was with them among others)
http://www.thesession.org/recordings/display/1113
I also have the 1691/Castle Ceili Band album. I’ ll post the track lists at the “Session” this week-end if anyone’s interested.