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 Post subject: FS: Grinter 6 Key Flute for sale
PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 12:50 pm 
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Grinter 6 Key Flute for sale.

The flute is in perfect condition. It is 'as new'. It is my wife's flute and she wanted a louder-playing flute and after playing one, she bought a Sam Murray.
The Grinter is subtle in tone.

Hand-made wooden case comes with it.

I am based in South West Ireland

From the website, these flutes new have a waiting list of 18 months and cost €2500.

http://cgi.ebay.ie/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie ... 0700552540


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 3:02 am 
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"The flute is in perfect condition. It is 'as new'. It is my wife's flute and she wanted a louder-playing flute and after playing one, she bought a Sam Murray. The Grinter is subtle in tone." Westies.

Yes, Sam's flutes can certainly honk, and have that raw powerful tone, but Kevin Crawford doesn't do too bad on his Grinter, he gets a mighty sound out of it :) . Anyway Good luck with the new Murray and the sale of the Grinter
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 6:57 am 
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It must be one of his older model then, as the Grinter I've tried was a real honker, just like a Murray or even more...

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 11:07 am 
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Right. Played an old Grinter and it was loud. More so than a Murray, IMO.


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 Post subject: Re: FS: Grinter 6 Key Flute for sale
PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 11:28 am 
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IMHO
Grinter flutes have a more difficult embouchure VS murray flutes.
Possibly this exlaplain the matter...


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 6:29 pm 
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radcliff wrote:
IMHO
Grinter flutes have a more difficult embouchure VS murray flutes.
Possibly this exlaplain the matter...


That's funny because I had the exact opposite impression. When I played a Murray, I could barely get a good sound out of it, and it was very quiet. The Grinter and the Olwell I played were just so much smoother and louder than the Murray. I guess I got a bad flute or something because I was excited to try it out, but I was sorely disappointed.

Anyways, good luck with the sale.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 11:48 pm 
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I too believe Grinter's "bad" volume reputation has to do with embouchure. Most likely the flute needs a slightly different embouchure than most flutes. I played with Barry Kerr in a session last year. His Grinter sounded all over the place. Could barely hear myself..

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i haven't tried either yet, so i'd love to hear from somebody more in the know, but i saw a photo of the embouchure cuts of a Grinter next to some other flutes (an Olwell and a Byrnes, i believe) and the Grinter cut was noticeably smaller. that might make it more difficult to get volume out of it... but i agree, KC does pretty well by his. :)

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Sigmund wrote:
I played with Barry Kerr in a session last year. His Grinter sounded all over the place. Could barely hear myself..


It is not matter of flute: Barry have volume turn on MAX on everythigs :-P


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I usually play Grinter flutes. When I played a Murray flute, I could hardly get a good sound out of it. I think a Murray flute demands a different way of blowing from the way I blow my Grinter flutes.

Anyway, I think it's a good opportunity to get a great flute at a reasonable price.

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 Post subject: Re: FS: Grinter 6 Key Flute for sale
PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 6:38 pm 
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I have Kevin's old cocus Grinter and I'm certainly not complaining about the tone or volume. I find the tuning a little hard to keep under control (sharper left hand, flatter foot) but it's a phenomenal flute, solid as a rock all the way down.

As it happens a couple of old pads fell off just before Clancy week and I popped into Sam's workshop in Galway for a refit. He wasn't impressed and struggled a little bit to play it himself. He thought the pads must still be bedding in but it was fine for me, being used to it. Horses for courses.

The Grinter has a slightly more rounded embouchure than my Rudall Carte, and it's easier to sound for me (being more used to it) and louder (at the moment). I prefer the complexity of tone on the RC&C but the Grinter is great. I don't think you can evaluate any flute from a couple of spells of playing. There's no point saying something's easier to play, depends what you're used to.

PS. I did the Jem head swap experiment and the RCC was a bit easier with the Grinter head but did lose some of that complex overtoning.

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 Post subject: Re: FS: Grinter 6 Key Flute for sale
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I must confess that I'm watching this eagerly in ebay and my finger's twitching on the buy it now button... I have a Grinter low whistle and have never heard Grinter flutes in the flesh sound anything short of awesome! It also has a 2 piece body, which would be an interesting change from my Cotter. There are only 2 things stopping me from buying this one right now. 1, I've been on Pat Olwell's list for years and hope to get my 6 key from him in 2012. 2, I believe Mike's flutes are rather less forgiving than Pat's ones in terms of embouchure.

If I wasn't needing a specially shaped G# key and wasn't afraid that the Grinter would be a lot tougher to blow, I would snap this one up without hesitation. I bet it's the beez-neez!
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 Post subject: Re: FS: Grinter 6 Key Flute for sale
PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 9:46 am 
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Yeah,

To be honest I don't know much about flutes. I'm selling it for my wife who is working in Italy for a few months. I play the fiddle.

I only know that flute players who have played it love it and it is in beautiful condition. Secondly, there seems to be a big demand for Grinter flutes if you ever decided to sell it again.

Thanks for your post


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 Post subject: Re: FS: Grinter 6 Key Flute for sale
PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 11:37 am 
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I'm sure you'd find a volunteer to take your place on the Olwell list (like me :wink:). But then if the Olwell is what you really want, you should hold out for it. Then again, buy the Grinter, sell it when your Olwell arrives for the same you paid for it. Then again, the music's more important than the flute. Decisions, decisions...

PS. how often do you use the G# key, and why do you need a special one?

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mmm, piper's grip?

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