Pulsating Metronome
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Pulsating Metronome
Has anyone ever tried this yolk: http://www.petersontuners.com/index.cfm?category=132
or anything like it?
It is a pulsing metronome. I find the usual sort ineffective with uilleann pipes.
or anything like it?
It is a pulsing metronome. I find the usual sort ineffective with uilleann pipes.
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Re: Pulsating Metronome
I'm a great fan of all most things made by Peterson, but not so much their vibrating sextoy metronome.
I had the opportunity to borrow one of these for a week from a friend who tried to use it for keeping the beat for accordion playing during feis competitions, but didn't like it.
Essentially, its a Doc Johnson style vibrator egg connected to a metronome box. You tuck the egg wherever it might get your attention and then, the theory is, you'll feel the beat more than hear it.
Problem is the whole "Doc Johnson style vibrator egg" problem. It doesn't feel like "tick tick tick". Instead it feels like "BZZT BZZT BZZT" and to me felt vague and distracting rather than useful. I really wanted to like it, but just couldn't.
Perhaps there might be some non-music related rhythm issues it could be "useful" for...
I had the opportunity to borrow one of these for a week from a friend who tried to use it for keeping the beat for accordion playing during feis competitions, but didn't like it.
Essentially, its a Doc Johnson style vibrator egg connected to a metronome box. You tuck the egg wherever it might get your attention and then, the theory is, you'll feel the beat more than hear it.
Problem is the whole "Doc Johnson style vibrator egg" problem. It doesn't feel like "tick tick tick". Instead it feels like "BZZT BZZT BZZT" and to me felt vague and distracting rather than useful. I really wanted to like it, but just couldn't.
Perhaps there might be some non-music related rhythm issues it could be "useful" for...
Re: Pulsating Metronome
Seems like an easy iPhone or Android app.
Just use the vibrator rather than the speaker.
Just use the vibrator rather than the speaker.
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I'd like to see an app for iPhone and iPod, but I do think that eskin's complaint is an accurate one. Beats are instants in time and vibration is always of some duration which can indeed blur the instant of the beat. You can probably get used to that, but it certainly is not intuitive. We need a little hammer that "pounds" whatever it is next to I doubt that will show up in an app...
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Just you wait until they release the fifth generation iPhones. Combined with a swiss army knife.cboody wrote:I'd like to see an app for iPhone and iPod, but I do think that eskin's complaint is an accurate one. Beats are instants in time and vibration is always of some duration which can indeed blur the instant of the beat. You can probably get used to that, but it certainly is not intuitive. We need a little hammer that "pounds" whatever it is next to I doubt that will show up in an app...
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Re: Pulsating Metronome
The beat is the leading edge of the pulse. It doesn't matter what kind of metronome you use, the sound is of some finite duration. I play in a pipe band, and we have a bass drum to keep the beat. A bass drum has a lot of sustain -- maybe even a couple seconds. You aim for the leading edge. In reality, if you wait until you hear it (or feel it), then you're late.cboody wrote:I'd like to see an app for iPhone and iPod, but I do think that eskin's complaint is an accurate one. Beats are instants in time and vibration is always of some duration which can indeed blur the instant of the beat. You can probably get used to that, but it certainly is not intuitive. We need a little hammer that "pounds" whatever it is next to I doubt that will show up in an app...
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I'll take a click over a bzzzt...
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Re: Pulsating Metronome
Yes, but that's the problem. A percussive pulse or click has a volume envelope with a large spike or peak at the leading edge, regardless of sustain. Without that peak the ear/brain can't find the onset.highland-piper wrote:The beat is the leading edge of the pulse. It doesn't matter what kind of metronome you use, the sound is of some finite duration. I play in a pipe band, and we have a bass drum to keep the beat. A bass drum has a lot of sustain -- maybe even a couple seconds. You aim for the leading edge. In reality, if you wait until you hear it (or feel it), then you're late.
Personally, I'm waiting for the Tase-O-Matic metronome. The 300kV pulse makes it easy to find the beat. Turn it up high enough, and your blood-curdling rhythmic screams provide a convenient "audio mode" for the rest of your group. Or hook it up to your calf muscles for perfect automatic foot-tapping. And if the tempo is wrong, it gives a whole new meaning to "Don't tase me, bro!"
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Re: Pulsating Metronome
Well sure, but a bass drum or a metronome has a defined attack envelope whereas a buzz does not. This makes the leading edge much harder to ascertain. BTW I was a bass drummer with a pipe band for some years and know what you mean. But still, as eskin says I'll take a click rather than a buzz.highland-piper wrote:
The beat is the leading edge of the pulse. It doesn't matter what kind of metronome you use, the sound is of some finite duration. I play in a pipe band, and we have a bass drum to keep the beat. A bass drum has a lot of sustain -- maybe even a couple seconds. You aim for the leading edge. In reality, if you wait until you hear it (or feel it), then you're late.
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Why is that the problem? Couldn't a vibration'sMTGuru wrote:Yes, but that's the problem. A percussive pulse or click has a volume envelope with a large spike or peak at the leading edge, regardless of sustain. Without that peak the ear/brain can't find the onset.highland-piper wrote:The beat is the leading edge of the pulse. It doesn't matter what kind of metronome you use, the sound is of some finite duration.
amplitude have a similar envelope?
This guy uses a cell phone vibrator to make his
LED pocketwatch tick like a real watch. Seems
like it would feel the same as it sounds: like a
discreet percussive tick, with all the power in
the leading edge.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUZ2Zz_CFaw
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Yes, I suppose it could. But apparently the Peterson buzz doesn't.fearfaoin wrote:Couldn't a vibration's amplitude have a similar envelope?
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Oh, i see. I was just wondering ifMTGuru wrote:Yes, I suppose it could. But apparently the Peterson buzz doesn't.fearfaoin wrote:Couldn't a vibration's amplitude have a similar envelope?
I should give up before I started.
May be some hope yet.
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Re: Pulsating Metronome
How about a Yamaha QT1 Quartz Metronome? You can turn off the sound and just watch the flashing light.