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 Post subject: Re: Fiche ceist!
PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2009 7:33 am 
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Ah yes, I'd forgotten that.

An éan é? (Is it a bird?)

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avanutria wrote:
Ah yes, I'd forgotten that.

An éan é? (Is it a bird?)


Is saghas éin é...ach cén saghas...sin atá i gceist! :wink: (it's a type of bird...but what type...that's the question! :wink: )

BTW, educational moment for any beginners who may be following along. Notice that I spelled the word for "bird" differently in my reply from the way avanutria spelled it in her question. That's because her question correctly used the nominative case ("éan"), but because I used "saghas" (type/sort) in my answer, I had to put the word for "bird" in the genitive, which is "éin."

A bird: éan
A type of bird: éin

Here endeth the lesson. :D

1) Tá sé beo: it is alive
2) Níl ceithre chos air: it doesn't have four feet/legs
3) Níl sé ina chónaí san fharraige: it doesn't live in the ocean
4) Ní planda é: it's not a plant
5) Is saghas éin é: it is a type of bird

Leid bheag: Tá an éan seo an-choitianta sna Stáit Aonthaithe, agus tá ceann cosúil leis an-choitianta i Sasana agus in Éirinn. Tá an aimn céanna ar an beirt acu. ("A little hint: This bird is very common in the United States, and one similar to it is very common in England and Ireland. The two of them have the same name").

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I'll pretend I didn't see the hint, as I think that gave it away! :lol: Ach go raibh maith agat for the educational moment.

Is anyone else going to play this game or is it just us? Is anyone else watching?

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Yeah, c'mon guys...get your feet wet! The "fíche ceist" site tells you how to phrase the questions, and if you don't have a dictionary, we can help you with the words you don't know (you can use English where needed). Seriously...an absolute beginner can play this (we've had a beginners' league going at IGTF for a couple of years now), and it's a great way to start learning some basic structures.

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Ócé...an spideog é?

OK...is it a robin?

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Ócé...an spideog é?

OK...is it a robin?


Tá an ceart agat! Is spideog í! You're right! It's a robin!

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Maith mé! :P

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Redwolf wrote:
sin atá i gceist! ....that's the question!

Is tamall beag é mar sin bfhéidir nach bhfuil an cheart agam, ach bfhéidir go mba cheart dhuit a ra: 'sin é an cheist' in ionad 'sin atá i gceist!', nach ea?

It's been a while so maybe I'm wrong, but maybe you should say "that's the question" instead of "that's what is in question" no? - It's hard for me to come up with a direct translation for "i gceist" but maybe "in question" or "under discussion" isn't a million miles away?

Now, what's Irish for pedantic? :lol:

Ar aon nos: maith sibh. Leanigi ar aghaidh. - Anyway, good on ye, off ye go.

P.S. How do you get the fada on your vowels? :-? I've been copying and pasting them in here.


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The Flying Spaghetti Monster knows Irish! :o How cool is that? :lol:

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P.S. How do you get the fada on your vowels? :-? I've been copying and pasting them in here.

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MTGuru wrote:
The Flying Spaghetti Monster knows Irish! :o How cool is that? :lol:
The great Flying Spaghetti Monster knows EVERYTHING. :twisted:
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alurker wrote:
P.S. How do you get the fada on your vowels? :-? I've been copying and pasting them in here.

viewtopic.php?f=40&t=68760

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You can say it either way, as far as I know. "Sin í an cheist" (ceist is feminine) is a literal translation of "that's the question"...as if you were answering the question "Cad é sin?" (what is that?), whereas 'that's what is in question' is more what I'd use for this kind of thing. But I think either is technically fine.

I'm definitely open to correction, though! Some of what I'm doing here is uncharted territory for me.


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Redwolf wrote:
"Sin í an cheist" (ceist is feminine)
Yeah that was a bit of a 50-50 punt on my part. The fact that an e-fada was available to copy and paste swung it for the masculine choice! :lol: BTW, any idea how you do fadas when working from a laptop and the right hand numberpad is not available?

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'that's what is in question' is more what I'd use for this kind of thing. But I think either is technically fine.
Yeah it's a matter of choice I guess. From memory, I'd tend to go with "Sin í an cheist" in this context but as you say either is technically fine.


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alurker wrote:
BTW, any idea how you do fadas when working from a laptop and the right hand numberpad is not available?


If you install the international keyboard layout then you can hold down the right-hand ALT button and press any vowel to get the fada version of that vowel. You can also press the ' button and then follow it with yo0ur chosen vowel to get the fada version. It has some side effects like swapping the locations of @ and " but works really well for me. Also once you have two keyboard layouts installed you get a little icon on your taskbar to let you easily switch from one to the other.

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Thanks for the help avanutria. I installed the US-International keyboard on Regional and Language Options. I've got the US-International keyboard selected but still Right (or left) ALT + e selects Edit from the menu bar and typing 'e appears as 'e.

Am I missing something? :-?


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Hm, not sure. It works for me...


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