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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:09 am 
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Do people make chanters in Eb? I know there are a few modern records of Irish music with the tunes tuned up half a step but I'm not sure of a piper playing on a recording tuned up to Eb. I imagine with the flat sets being fairly common that it would be possible to make a chanter in Eb. The holes would be a little closer together but probably not enough to make it unplayable.

Is there a physical reason not to make one? Or is it just not in enough demand? Or very possible, have I just not Googled enough?


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Sam Lawrence has made at least 1. Sound files at the bottom of this page: http://hunterpipes.co.uk/sounds/


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There is an A. Froment practice set in F that has been in the classifieds on UilleannObsession.


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I have some nice Eb 14 inch chanters. There are a few sets out there too, like Crowley, etc., but most people will say they are D, rather than admit Eb. People are afraid to embrace Eb, but it's a lovely key to play in. I'd be so happy to get a full set going, and I'd wager there are more Eb sets trying to play in D out there than proper Eb sets.

I imagine it will fall back into fashion in the future (as things often do with piping). Those 1970s sped-up recordings you mention, where the instruments are playing in E or Eb, sound incredible if a little speedy.


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Jack Brennan in Australia has recently made one. It sounds absolutely amazing.


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Take into account: People in an Eb-session might not WANT to have pipers!


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Eb appears to be the rage in Ireland these days. The spoken intent is that it "cuts through the noise". But it also kicks us fixed-pitched instruments to the sidelines.

There are is a groundswell to do these Eb snobs one better: we're going to play in Ebb. Haha! Take that!

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Does it count as a groundswell if it's really a facebook campaign*?

*campaign may be too strong - a facebook post.


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tommykleen wrote:
Eb appears to be the rage in Ireland these days. The spoken intent is that it "cuts through the noise". But it also kicks us fixed-pitched instruments to the sidelines.


Yah, the continual creep up in pitch has done wonders :thumbsup: for the GHB crowd. The next step is likely a pair of vice (sic) grip pliers up the kilt. :shock:

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NicoMoreno wrote:
Does it count as a groundswell if it's really a facebook campaign*?

*campaign may be too strong - a facebook post.


"A journey of a thousand miles begins with but one [facebook post]".

Did I say groundswell ? I meant movement. :)


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daveboling wrote:
tommykleen wrote:
Eb appears to be the rage in Ireland these days. The spoken intent is that it "cuts through the noise". But it also kicks us fixed-pitched instruments to the sidelines.


Yah, the continual creep up in pitch has done wonders :thumbsup: for the GHB crowd. The next step is likely a pair of vice (sic) grip pliers up the kilt. :shock:

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Andy Faden makes an Eb chanter. I played one in his workshop and it was good.


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