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 Post subject: Re: Understanding keys
PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:21 am 
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...The problem I see with adding keys is that you will need to learn a different fingering pattern


The fingering pattern is the same as a keyless, the keys are extras to enable playing Eb, Fnat, Gsharp etc.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 8:11 am 
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jim stone wrote:
Another widely used option.

Hold the flute at three points. Your lips, the fulcrum provided by the base of your left
index, and the rt pinky pressing to the rt of the low D hole. Thumbs are off the flute.
You should do this
until you are secure with the three pt grip--it's all you need to secure the flute.

THEN gently add the thumbs, which do minimal work in holding the flute



This describes how I support the flute. My left thumb rests fairly loosely at the side of the flute body not under it and the base of my left index presses lightly inward against the flute body on the other side. I tend to find that thumb 'support' is a main cause of tension and discomfort.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 8:32 am 
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I have been stuggling with shoulder and neck tension while playing, and have until now been using my chin and thumbs as the 3 points of my grip.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:57 am 
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I don't know if this will help you but.... I tried doggedly to use the 'pressing out with
the right thumb' to stabilize the flute and I couldn't do it. My fault, probably, as many people quite happily use the grip. Also I kept getting injured that way. The switch to my rt pinky works
quite well for me (I confess it took me years to figure out how to hold a flute), so you might
give it a go and see how if helps. A lot of this stuff is idiosyncratic.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 10:05 am 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVl-0VkrbHc


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 4:38 pm 
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My right hand actually wasn’t as bad as I thought. I hadn’t put much conscious thought into right hand technique, and once I had flute in hand again I realized that what I’m actually doing is using a combination of thumb and pinkie with about equal pressure from both. Very much like it looks in the video.


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I played a lot of baroque flute before ever getting my six-key. The three point grip for the baroque flute is lip-left knuckle-left thumb. As Quantz said, you should be able to hold the flute with the left hand. Rather than throw this away to play the six-key, I ordered it with a right-hand Bflat touch, next to the Cnat key, which I never use anyway.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:23 pm 
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I’ve thought about getting a right hand Bb. In addition to the grip issue it would make things more the saxophone fingering I originally learned music on. But, we’ll see. Someone has offered to sell me a cheap German keyed flute to mess around with and figure things out. It’s not A = 440 but will be more practicing at home anyway.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 11:39 am 
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Anyhow the true purpose of keys is to prevent your flute
from rolling off the table. The rest is detail.


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