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 Post subject: Uilleann Pipe Beginner
PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 11:36 am 
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Hey,

I recently got a practice set for xmas but im having trouble getting started because of these issues.

- The tube that goes across your waist has a bend in it which is stopping all of the air from going to the bag and from looking at youtube videos etc the tube should not be bent like it is

- The air seems to go into the chanter even when im not pressing the bag, is that normal?

It would be much appreciated if someone can respond to this query as i have found nothing on the internet about it.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 2:48 pm 
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Shorten the tube, but preserving the device and connections that connects the bellows to the bag, between the two elements.

You must be pressing something for air to pass twixt bag and chanter.

I suggest you urgently find another bellows piper, and seek advice around the common technique of bellows blowing and the mechanics of tube length, vis a viz your waist size, etc!

don't give up.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 1:34 pm 
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Hi Cameron

Welcome to the challenging world of uillean pipes.
On my set if the bag is pumped up it will pass air into chanter unless all holes are covered and chanter stopped on knee. Sounds like a snakes hiss.
Get your kit sorted out and keep at it and sure you will do fine. They are a PIA to play but very satisfying when it goes well. Keep up your spirits! Keep posting any questions. We all have been there.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 8:18 pm 
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I am with Pwrt... finding someone to guide you is the best way to go!

Where are you located?

You may also find someone who does Skype lessons, too, which would be great!

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You did not mention what kind of practise set you have. If it is a cheap ebay set you are in for a whole lot of trouble and my best advice is to gently walk away from it and never pick it up again. Sounds very harsh, but it can kill all the enthusiasm and joy of learning this instrument.

If it is a quality set; keep at it and listen to the advice given here and other places.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 10:28 am 
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Cheers for all of the replies.

I'll try and reply to all of the comments as best as I can.

Yes the set was from ebay, they were £70.

I have already tried shortening the tube and that didnt do much to be honest and im worried if i shorten it anymore I'll make it even worse

Fortunately I know someone who is a world championship bagpiper and he, from time to time, plays bellows instruments as well so i shall see him when i get the chance.

But from what I understand, if they're from Ebay they most likely are going to be junk? How much should i be paying for a practice set?

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:30 pm 
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cameronash wrote:
But from what I understand, if they're from Ebay they most likely are going to be junk? How much should i be paying for a practice set?

It sadly sounds like you might have a set that was made in Pakistan, given the cheap price. Sometimes pipers sell quality sets on Ebay, but most of the sets listed there are unplayable. Someone once gave me one of those sets to experiment with, and it was far from playable, and I immediately returned it.

If you want to continue with the pipes, you'll want to find yourself a quality set. If money is a constraint, I've read good comments on David Daye penny chanters. Otherwise, you mentioned "£", so I assume you're in the UK. I've heard that NPU sometimes has loaner practice sets for members. And there are some makers relatively near you who make reasonably priced practice sets, like Kenneth McNicholl (https://www.kmbagpipes.com/) and Martin Gallen (http://banbadesign.co.uk/).

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The bellows and bag may be fine. I have a cheap ebay set. The bellows and bag hold air and while not as comfortable as my other set of pipes they work just fine.
See if the bag and bellows are good if they are just buy the best chanter you can afford.
Kenny McNicholl has some nice low cost options.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 7:55 am 
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Ok i'll have to have a look around then and think about returning this set


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Where are you from Cameron? Much easier to point you in the right direction if we know that.

I'm afraid as a rough guide you want to multiply the amount you spent by about ten...


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