A Copeland? Another mystery low d whistle please?
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A Copeland? Another mystery low d whistle please?
This unidentified low D whistle just appeared on eBay and leaves me perplexed but interested. Obviously Copeland comes to mind but unless I'm mistaken I don't think this is one.
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Re: Another mystery low d whistle please?
Its 'box beard' and ears (in pipe organ terms) are certainly Copeland-ish, and from that photo it even looks tapered. I'll be interested to hear if anyone recognizes it.
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Re: Another mystery low d whistle please?
Appears to be from this source and not available anymore. Either really a Copeland? or any kind of Howard prototype.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Irish-folk-Wh ... yTc1w68k7g
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Irish-folk-Wh ... yTc1w68k7g
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Re: A Copeland? Another mystery low d whistle please?
It's not available anymore because I bought it on the off chance . . . Besides which I always fancied trying a Copeland Low D or one like it.
If nobody can identify it, does anyone know Michael Copeland's e-mail address by chance?
If nobody can identify it, does anyone know Michael Copeland's e-mail address by chance?
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Re: A Copeland? Another mystery low d whistle please?
Nice find Mike, hope it works ok for you. I bought a G whistle from the same seller.
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Re: A Copeland? Another mystery low d whistle please?
Nice find! The wheelbarrow doesn't look like Mr Copeland's (the ones I've seen or the one I have), but that doesn't mean it's not. Whether it is or not, I hope it plays well for you and that you enjoy it much!Mikethebook wrote:It's not available anymore because I bought it on the off chance . . . Besides which I always fancied trying a Copeland Low D or one like it.
If nobody can identify it, does anyone know Michael Copeland's e-mail address by chance?
Would it be possible to take some better, clearer pictures of it, once you get it?
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Re: A Copeland? Another mystery low d whistle please?
Thanks for your replies. I will take some better photos when I get it.
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Re: A Copeland? Another mystery low d whistle please?
Michael Copeland is on Facebook.
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Of course!!! Thanks.
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Re: A Copeland? Another mystery low d whistle please?
That whistle does have the look of a Copeland, but I 'beard and ears' look different. I have a brass low D (3834) and they are lower, longer and have a more rounded look.
There is a very 'cursive' 'D' on the audience-facing side of the tuning slide and a serial n umber underneath. It has no marking resembling the round one in the pictures. Mind you I cannot prove mine is a genuine one - though it does look exactly like my silver one.
Yours could be a model from a different era - I seem to remember design changes being discussed on this forum. I will post pics later if it would be helpful.
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There is a very 'cursive' 'D' on the audience-facing side of the tuning slide and a serial n umber underneath. It has no marking resembling the round one in the pictures. Mind you I cannot prove mine is a genuine one - though it does look exactly like my silver one.
Yours could be a model from a different era - I seem to remember design changes being discussed on this forum. I will post pics later if it would be helpful.
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Re: A Copeland? Another mystery low d whistle please?
Thanks for your input, DrPhill. By all means post pictures, please. That might prove helpful.
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Re: A Copeland? Another mystery low d whistle please?
Drat - I have the images but forgot that this site does not host images. I need to look at other options.
Might be a while.......
Might be a while.......
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Re: A Copeland? Another mystery low d whistle please?
Nice find! It is possibly one of the prototype Copeland copies made by his apprentice....I don't remember the logo or the black mouth piece but that looks like tape. Seems like only Dale Wisely and I have played one of these copies.....there is a thread somewhere on the topic but my computer skills are a little limited....if it is one of those, congrats because they are excellent players....both Dale and I agreed that they are better players than the Copelands...time will tell once you receive it. Good luck!!
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Remembered the password to my own webspace......
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Re: A Copeland? Another mystery low d whistle please?
Thanks for the photos DrPhill. Very helpful.
whistle1000, I managed to find the threads you were talking about and they were a mine of information. Thank you. I sent messages to Michael Copeland and Jim Rementer (his business partner) on Facebook and would love to contact John Bishop (an apprentice) if I could. Can't think who else to try.
It is black tape on the fipple. Why it's there I don't know but my thought is the last owner preferred not to put brass in his mouth. I will make a decision whether to risk removing it when it's arrived. My other concern/query will be how to clean both the outside and inside (before playing it) never having dealt with brass before. I'm used to a medium blowing Goldie (lots of backpressure) so I think I will find this somewhat alien and heavy on the air but I'm curious how it plays and sounds. The weight of it may be an issue but we'll see. Looking forward to it.
I'll submit better photos when it arrives.
whistle1000, I managed to find the threads you were talking about and they were a mine of information. Thank you. I sent messages to Michael Copeland and Jim Rementer (his business partner) on Facebook and would love to contact John Bishop (an apprentice) if I could. Can't think who else to try.
It is black tape on the fipple. Why it's there I don't know but my thought is the last owner preferred not to put brass in his mouth. I will make a decision whether to risk removing it when it's arrived. My other concern/query will be how to clean both the outside and inside (before playing it) never having dealt with brass before. I'm used to a medium blowing Goldie (lots of backpressure) so I think I will find this somewhat alien and heavy on the air but I'm curious how it plays and sounds. The weight of it may be an issue but we'll see. Looking forward to it.
I'll submit better photos when it arrives.