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 Post subject: Contrabass chanter?
PostPosted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 5:15 pm 
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I stumbled across this video recently (the first 55 seconds is relevant):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iu60MwpMiow

I've seen low D chanters for border pipes, and a chanter without keys that plays lower than that becomes impractical due to the large spacing of the holes. But with a coiled bore, an A 220 chanter, or lower (an A 110?) would be possible. Brass tubing would be the obvious material choice, but I can also imagine ways to fabricate it in wood, although not easily.

I might try making one in brass using a tubing bender. Has anyone considered this or encountered discussion about the possibility?


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 5:54 pm 
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its been done (more or less) ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIy86HTy9oc

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rackett

has anyone ever hooked up a bag, drones & bellows to a rackett??

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CHasR wrote:
has anyone ever hooked up a bag, drones & bellows to a rackett??

All pipers do that by definition, don't they? :wink:

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...thanks for not disappointing Nano. :lol: You rose quite admirably to that. :D

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I've heard some bass D chanters and wonder why anyone would want one lower than that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl4uQYGfZ5o

Another option, rather than the coiled bore, is the way a serpent is made, to bring the far-apart fingerholes within reach

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMQJCHoqlrc

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pancelticpiper wrote:
I've heard some bass D chanters and wonder why anyone would want one lower than that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl4uQYGfZ5o

It;s really quite clever isnt it :)

'why' you ask? ...because deep pipes are totally awesome. :wink:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmVPjHB9oEc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hL2z1uZmWhs

as opposed to deep saxes, which are totally geeksome :P
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtWqOyFcMwU

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It certainly sounds like it would be a fun experiment!

But, your end result will probably not behave much like a border pipe chanter, because the coiled brass tubing will be roughly cylindrical, more like an SSP chanter.

...Unless, of course, you're planning on making a tapered AND coiled chanter bore out of brass tubing. In that case, hats off to you!


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Chas, that video looks more like a 12 palmi than a 7 palmi to me. Sucker's big.


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Also, hes not a very tall guy. :)

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CHasR wrote:
as opposed to deep saxes, which are totally geeksome :P
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtWqOyFcMwU

Geeksome?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rv7qoW_ ... ata_player

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFi4wuRA ... ata_player

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Not quite contra.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lmz94A2x ... ata_player

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhPtHfqg ... ata_player
Chas, our friend Edwin still has one of these?

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i BELIEVE so...havent heard hide nor hair of that guy in a loooooong time though.

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CHasR wrote:
i BELIEVE so...havent heard hide nor hair of that guy in a loooooong time though.

Here's the newest that I've heard.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQJryiEJ ... ata_player

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How about this low D borderpipes by Seth Hamon http://www.swedishbagpipes.com/smallpipes.html

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ckrusor wrote:
I might try making one in brass using a tubing bender. Has anyone considered this or encountered discussion about the possibility?

Maybe Saurrus & Gautrot??
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarrusophone

well, here's the thing. couple posts back someone said that unless you flare this spiral bore, this chanter will be a quiet one indeed. Theyre right. "Mr Curly" has a mounted transducer and is probly being run through a rackfull of Digital Signal Processors. Racketts, with their abnormally long, doubled back bores, IIRC-- are not particularly loud & (also iirc), they were designed to be played "In Consort", SATB style, the shortest, highest rackett carrying the most important melodic voice. If you can make this idea work,,, then go for it! :) but i think your kinda gonna be fighting the laws of physics sooner or later with it, yaknowhaddimean?...

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