D#/Eb on a keyless flute

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D#/Eb on a keyless flute

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Does anyone have success playing D#/Eb on a keyless flute? I find that's an awfully small hole to half-hole and even when I get an in-tune sound it's pretty "fluffy"/wimpy. Is it possible and I'm just not there yet or is that a note to be worked around? If you are able to make a reasonable sound, how are you doing it?

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Re: D#/Eb on a keyless flute

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This is why in 18th century the first key they put on a flute was an Eb...
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Re: D#/Eb on a keyless flute

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Othannen wrote:This is why in 18th century the first key they put on a flute was an Eb...
... and then the second was a D# ... or vice versa ... I can never remember ...
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almost tea time Ben... do ya need a new writer?
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It's difficult but it can be done with practice. I put R 3 down straight, that is, the finger unbent, the
crease of the first joint creasing the hole. As is often the case with half-holed notes the key is better.
Half-holing Eb works OK at speed.
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its a rubbish note on a keyless flute but I find I can get it if I cover the hole slightly with the finger tip and lip down. Rather than try and half hole all the way which youre trying now which results in a more muffled note.
works differently on various hole sizes.
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Denny wrote:almost tea time Ben... do ya need a new writer?
Think it's a Quantz joke, Denny!
jim stone wrote:Half-holing Eb works OK at speed.
So how's your D#, Jim?
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Peter Duggan wrote:
Denny wrote:almost tea time Ben... do ya need a new writer?
Think it's a Quantz joke, Denny!
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my post is just a slightly diiferent approach, far from reasonable, only works in quick passages.
I wish all my keyless flutes had at least that key.
worth a shot though.
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Peter Duggan wrote:
Denny wrote:almost tea time Ben... do ya need a new writer?
Think it's a Quantz joke, Denny!
jim stone wrote:Half-holing Eb works OK at speed.
So how's your D#, Jim?
If you half-hole both, the sum is reasonably accurate.
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an' y'all know how much we's likes us sum reasonable accuracy....
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Yup!
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The easiest and most effective way of playing a D# on a keyless flute is to add a key. :)
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Easy solution: transpose those pesky F dorian tunes and be done with it. :)
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Re: D#/Eb on a keyless flute

Post by cunparis »

Do some flutes have a thicker wall than others at the bottom? Mine is pretty thick (Copley Delrin) and I'm not having any luck half-holing this one. I will try the suggestion of blowing down.
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