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bodhran playing clip
I'm going to take a chance here and share a clip of my on flute and bodhran. Definitely not my best playing on the drum, but I figure it might uncover my shortcomings and inspire someone who has more experience than I do to possibly suggest some specific changes in my playing. Of course, I suppose I open myself up the another possiblity, that of someone suggesting I stick with the flute and leave the drumming to the drummers.
Anyway, here it is:
Lansdowne Lass with drum
Michael
Anyway, here it is:
Lansdowne Lass with drum
Michael
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That is pretty nice...good variation, and not seems fairly subtle (although one can't judge the volume balance on a multitracked recording like this). You clearly have the flow of the tune in your drumming, it's a great advantage to know the tune well (some percussionists don't).
You do wander away from the beat a bit with the drum, generally a bit ahead of the beat. It sounds like you're playing tense, as if you're at the edge of your abilities, or maybe just nervous. Try playing something so simple and subtle it feels like it's too easy, and see how that comes across in a recording.
You do wander away from the beat a bit with the drum, generally a bit ahead of the beat. It sounds like you're playing tense, as if you're at the edge of your abilities, or maybe just nervous. Try playing something so simple and subtle it feels like it's too easy, and see how that comes across in a recording.
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Hey, not a bad start at all, Michael. I actually think that learning to play bodhrán and/or guitar rhythm can help to develop one's sense of phrasing and melodic lift on flute, whistle, etc.
You might want to try: a) Skipping the triplets for now, and concentrate on a nice steady beat; b) Leaving a little more breathing room in the bodhrán line, and follow the melodic phrasing a bit more closely.
My impression is that the top end stick style is becoming more and more popular nowadays. You might want to give that a try, too.
Enjoy!
You might want to try: a) Skipping the triplets for now, and concentrate on a nice steady beat; b) Leaving a little more breathing room in the bodhrán line, and follow the melodic phrasing a bit more closely.
My impression is that the top end stick style is becoming more and more popular nowadays. You might want to give that a try, too.
Enjoy!
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Hi mahanpots
MTguru got in with what would be my first comment - rein in on the triplets.
Second - you came in at the wrong time - if you are not starting at the same time, leave 2 bars before you come in on the drum.
Your drum is pitched for accompanying a singer rather than a flute, if it is tunable, tighten the skin to get it to a higher pitch - if possible tune it to your flute. A slightly tighter skin will let you control the drum's tones better
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MTguru got in with what would be my first comment - rein in on the triplets.
Second - you came in at the wrong time - if you are not starting at the same time, leave 2 bars before you come in on the drum.
Your drum is pitched for accompanying a singer rather than a flute, if it is tunable, tighten the skin to get it to a higher pitch - if possible tune it to your flute. A slightly tighter skin will let you control the drum's tones better
David
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Thanks for the replies guys.
I'm not sure what MTGuru means by trying the top end of the stick. You mean use the top end of the stick for the main beating of the drum, holding the stick in the same way? Changing the way you hold the stick?
BigDavy mentions a few suggestions. I'll try those. Listening to my playing, I did get the sense there were too many triplets. As far as tuning to my flute, you mean tune to my D note?
I appreciate everything shared,
Michael
I'm not sure what MTGuru means by trying the top end of the stick. You mean use the top end of the stick for the main beating of the drum, holding the stick in the same way? Changing the way you hold the stick?
BigDavy mentions a few suggestions. I'll try those. Listening to my playing, I did get the sense there were too many triplets. As far as tuning to my flute, you mean tune to my D note?
I appreciate everything shared,
Michael
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Hi Michael
To answer your question about top end style - here is a nice example - Martin O'Neil http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=0WC1r-yDvLQ
I tend to tune my drum by ear now - but for working with a flute I would tune the drum to an octave below the first octave G or A note of the flute and use my left hand to control the pitch while playing.
What type of drum are you playing, the type and construction of your drum can affect the appropriate playing style and suitable pitches.
David
To answer your question about top end style - here is a nice example - Martin O'Neil http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=0WC1r-yDvLQ
I tend to tune my drum by ear now - but for working with a flute I would tune the drum to an octave below the first octave G or A note of the flute and use my left hand to control the pitch while playing.
What type of drum are you playing, the type and construction of your drum can affect the appropriate playing style and suitable pitches.
David
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Hi David,
I've got an 18" x about 4" double-headed drum from Mid-East whatever they're called that I've been playing recently. I've also got an old one from them that has a single head. Both are tuneable.
I'll have to look at that video closer a little later.
Thanks,
Michael
I've got an 18" x about 4" double-headed drum from Mid-East whatever they're called that I've been playing recently. I've also got an old one from them that has a single head. Both are tuneable.
I'll have to look at that video closer a little later.
Thanks,
Michael
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Here's a good description of top end style with a tutorial:
http://www.bodojo.com/top_end.html
And here's John Joe Kelly playing top end, with a good view of the stick:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=wntaX0EafFs
http://www.bodojo.com/top_end.html
And here's John Joe Kelly playing top end, with a good view of the stick:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=wntaX0EafFs
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Hi MTguru
Sorry to disagree here, but JohnJoe Kelly plays in a mixed style rather than purely top end.
Michael, is this the type of drum you used?
If so then top end playing might be a bit more difficult than if you had a 16" or smaller deep rim drum (which are more suited to this style of play).
Disregard my comments re tuning to G or A - it could be done with your drum, but I think that you would not like the sound that it would make.
As a test, try tightening the drum just a little more and record it to somebody singing, rather than your flute, and compare the mix with the flute bodhran duet. If you do not prefer that mix I will be surprised.
David
Sorry to disagree here, but JohnJoe Kelly plays in a mixed style rather than purely top end.
Michael, is this the type of drum you used?
If so then top end playing might be a bit more difficult than if you had a 16" or smaller deep rim drum (which are more suited to this style of play).
Disregard my comments re tuning to G or A - it could be done with your drum, but I think that you would not like the sound that it would make.
As a test, try tightening the drum just a little more and record it to somebody singing, rather than your flute, and compare the mix with the flute bodhran duet. If you do not prefer that mix I will be surprised.
David
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I'm more than happy to stand corrected, David.BigDavy wrote:Sorry to disagree here, but JohnJoe Kelly plays in a mixed style rather than purely top end.
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BigDavy,
That looks like my drum, yes.
Michael
That looks like my drum, yes.
Michael
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bodhran playing
Hi Michael,
Nice job accompanying yourself. I'll trade you some bodhran Naayh for some flute Naayh... deal? : )
My 2 cents is keep on practicing and remember to use the drums ability to change pitch - there's a lot more tones available to you than you are using. I love playing the bodhran because it's like a whole drum kit in one drum. just as long as you are supporting the tune and helping drive the flow in an appropriate manner you can get away with a lot of variety in your playing without becoming the guy the other players want to shoot.. ;0 I enjoyed your post.
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Nice job accompanying yourself. I'll trade you some bodhran Naayh for some flute Naayh... deal? : )
My 2 cents is keep on practicing and remember to use the drums ability to change pitch - there's a lot more tones available to you than you are using. I love playing the bodhran because it's like a whole drum kit in one drum. just as long as you are supporting the tune and helping drive the flow in an appropriate manner you can get away with a lot of variety in your playing without becoming the guy the other players want to shoot.. ;0 I enjoyed your post.
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Hi MTGuru
Came across this nice example of top end playing so here it is for your perusal.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPzGgryyGfw
Came across this nice example of top end playing so here it is for your perusal.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPzGgryyGfw
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