The Cock of the North

hillfolk22 · Post by **hillfolk22** » Sat Aug 31, 2002 6:56 am

I have been learning the set of tunes from the CD "Tin Whistles" by Paddy Moloney and Sean Potts. (thank goodness for the Amazing Slow Downer Program!)

The set is The Ballyfin Slide and The Cock of the North.

I found the chords to the Ballyfin Slide, could not find any for The Cock of the North.

What are the chords to it?

BTW... IMHO... The CD mentioned is a really great CD.

Laura

Teri-K · Post by **Teri-K** » Sat Aug 31, 2002 7:50 am

Cock o' the North is a very easy find at JC's Tunefinder, complete with chords.

Teri

Cayden · Post by **Cayden** » Sat Aug 31, 2002 10:42 am

It was also recorded by SeamusEnnis, Caiominh O Raghallaigh and other. Auntie Mary had a Canary. Named also sometimes. [I sang the words for my son once when he was four and for years he was singing 'Holy Mary had a Canary']

hillfolk22 · Post by **hillfolk22** » Sat Aug 31, 2002 11:44 am

On 2002-08-31 12:42, Peter Laban wrote:
It was also recorded by SeamusEnnis, Caiominh O Raghallaigh and other. Auntie Mary had a Canary. Named also sometimes. [I sang the words for my son once when he was four and for years he was singing 'Holy Mary had a Canary']

Holy Mary had a Canary... kids say the darndest things.

I am interested in the words to Auntie Mary had a Canary.

The whole purpose of learning these tunes is to have some fun on open stage night at a festival I will be attending in September.

I am even dabbling in a little Irish Gaelic singing. I have been studying a song from the book Singing In Irish Gaelic by Mary McLaughlin. Comes with CD.

The song is: Beidh Aonach Amarach
It is a great beginner book to singing in Gaelic. Go figure... Learning nursery rhymns again. Or the equivalent to that.

Peter, I hope I do the song justice.

Laura

hillfolk22 · Post by **hillfolk22** » Sat Aug 31, 2002 11:54 am

On 2002-08-31 09:50, Teri-K wrote:
Cock o' the North is a very easy find at JC's Tunefinder, complete with chords.

Teri

Thanks Teri,

I dove into the site a little deeper.

When trying to download the abc file I kept on getting no music.

The PDF did not give me anything.

The GIF file was a success.

Laura

Cayden · Post by **Cayden** » Sat Aug 31, 2002 1:18 pm

That's Irish education for you, they start seeing Holy Mary everywhere, even with a canary up the leg of her drawers.

As for JC, I never get along with that site, try http://tunedb.woodenflute.com/ the tunedatabase instead, works very well for me.

hillfolk22 · Post by **hillfolk22** » Sat Aug 31, 2002 7:09 pm

Thank you Peter,

That is a really nice website.

It is now in my favorites!

Do find the tunes to be close to how it is to be traditionally played?

I have been to thesession.org website before and found that some of the tunes did not follow very closely with recordings.

Laura

Cayden · Post by **Cayden** » Sat Aug 31, 2002 7:32 pm

I don't use these things very often, the best feature is the abc search where you can search on parts of tunes, occasionally I come back from the session in the middle of the night with bits of tunes floating in my head, I sometimes search then, so I still have the tuen in the morning or so I get the other half of the tune I remembered. The quality of the tunes in it seems half decent, the ones I have seen anywya but then, I would change stuff to suit me, take out mistakes etc.

Paul Reid · Post by **Paul Reid** » Sun Sep 01, 2002 5:47 am

Brian McNamara said to me that there are the basic structures of tunes and then there are the embelleshments and grace notes that make a tune your own.

I find sometimes that the ABC stuff is okay for basic knowledge of the notes and structure, but in my mind, to make the tune sound like it has some character, then it's up to the player to "top it off". Do you think that's a fair comment?

hillfolk22 · Post by **hillfolk22** » Sun Sep 01, 2002 5:53 am

Another question on how tunes are played.

For those who are familiar with the cd I mentioned earlier.

In regards to the Ballyfin Slide and The Cock of the North set.

I noticed on the cd that they played the B parts first. It makes for an interesting tune. I was wondering is this a common practice to start on the B part of tunes?

And Peter, Does the Song Autie Mary Had a Canary have naughty lyrics in it or something? I guess you did not take the hint that I was interested in the lyrics to it. Figured you would of posted it.

Laura

hillfolk22 · Post by **hillfolk22** » Sun Sep 01, 2002 6:02 am

On 2002-09-01 07:47, Paul Reid wrote:
Brian McNamara said to me that there are the basic structures of tunes and then there are the embelleshments and grace notes that make a tune your own.

I find sometimes that the ABC stuff is okay for basic knowledge of the notes and structure, but in my mind, to make the tune sound like it has some character, then it's up to the player to "top it off". Do you think that's a fair comment?

Yes, I think that is a fair comment.

And on those two tunes, I have notice Paddy and Sean are embellishing the heck out of it.

Which makes for a fun challenge to me.

My friend and I have already had one practice. And we had a blast playing around with the embellishment.

Now it is my personal quest to find more whistle duet recordings.

Any suggestions?

Laura

Cayden · Post by **Cayden** » Sun Sep 01, 2002 6:43 am

this is one set of words

Auntie Mary had a canary
Up the leg of her drawers
When she was sleeping
It was peeping
Up the leg of he drawers

There are others though.

hillfolk22 · Post by **hillfolk22** » Sun Sep 01, 2002 6:48 am

On 2002-09-01 08:43, Peter Laban wrote:
this is one set of words

Auntie Mary had a canary
Up the leg of her drawers
When she was sleeping
It was peeping
Up the leg of he drawers

There are others though.

OH I See.

Perhaps not the best song for a lady to sing.

JimmyM · Post by **JimmyM** » Mon Sep 02, 2002 2:00 am

Auntie Mary had a Canary
Up the leg of her drawers
She pulled a string, it started to sing
And down came Santa Claus

(learned at primary school)

brian_k · Post by **brian_k** » Sun Oct 06, 2002 5:28 am

It's also known as "Chase me Charley" ("... through the barley, up the leg o' me drawers," etc.)

Pretty good slide musically IMO, stand-alone without any risque lyrics ... Andy McGann & Paddy Reynolds used to play it, which is who(m) I learned it from.

'luck now,
brian_k