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Author:  Mr.Gumby [ Sun Mar 04, 2018 11:32 am ]
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There's an unusual EP CD by Kavan Donohoe from Co. Cavan playing an "electronic" set of "VPipes" [ "v" for "Virtual" ], and he plays a reel called "Clancy's Fancy" which I would almost swear is a reel version of the "IW"


This one then :https://thesession.org/tunes/11700

That was roughly what I was thinking of, even though I have a slightly different version of it (it avoids all F# s) and never had a name for it.

Tommy Reck played it in three different keys, thing is, it nearly morphs into a version of the Mason's Apron.

Author:  benhall.1 [ Sun Mar 04, 2018 1:00 pm ]
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oleorezinator wrote:
Did I hear the obligatory Yank at the end saying "!" :D




benhall.1 wrote:

Did I hear the obligatory Yank at the end saying "Waanderrrful!" :D

Ben, which part of jolly old do you hail from?
And is the pronunciation there rhotic or non rhotic?[/quote]
I actually never quite know what "rhotic" means. I grew up in South Wales, but have what most people in the UK would consider to be 'no accent' - some think I sound 'posh'.

It was more the "aa" sound on the first syllable that triggered my query as to whether the lady in question was American than the "r" sound. But she did have a good ol' "r" sound there! :)

Author:  oleorezinator [ Sun Mar 04, 2018 1:03 pm ]
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A old time/bluegrass fiddler type show up
at a session wanting to play and had the 
good sense to listen instead of the usual
droning and chording that they mostly
do if they don't know a tune. When he 
finally played a tune it was the Irish Washerwoman 
played like a reel or hornpipe. Listening 
to this it finally struck me that the lack
of jigs in those styles was due to those
tunes being morphed into this rythmn and
would also explain the 2/4 jigs that are in some
collections. Turn the two 16th notes into 1/8
notes and presto change-o, you have a jig!
This is something similar to what he played.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzSemVm ... 3y&index=4

Author:  Mr.Gumby [ Sun Mar 04, 2018 1:11 pm ]
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This is something similar to what he played.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzSemVm ... 3y&index=4



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Author:  oleorezinator [ Sun Mar 04, 2018 1:20 pm ]
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Quote:
benhall.1 wrote:
oleorezinator wrote:
Did I hear the obligatory Yank at the end saying "!" :D




benhall.1 wrote:

Did I hear the obligatory Yank at the end saying "Waanderrrful!" :D

Ben, which part of jolly old do you hail from?
And is the pronunciation there rhotic or non rhotic?

I actually never quite know what "rhotic" means. I grew up in South Wales, but have what most people in the UK would consider to be 'no accent' - some think I sound 'posh'.

Quote:
It was more the "aa" sound on the first syllable that triggered my query as to whether the lady in question was American than the "r" sound. But she did have a good ol' "r" sound there! :)

To my American ears she makes it sound like the short u sound
as in won or done. It doesn't sound to me like wander at all.
The rhotic thing deals with the pronunciation of R.
We gotta bring in that Immoderator of Moderators, MT Guru on this one!

Author:  benhall.1 [ Sun Mar 04, 2018 1:42 pm ]
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oleorezinator wrote:
We gotta bring in that Immoderator of Moderators, MT Guru on this one!
I know - he would be the one for this kind of thing. I also know that it's completely beyond me.

Author:  Nanohedron [ Sun Mar 04, 2018 2:44 pm ]
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oleorezinator wrote:
To my American ears she makes it sound like the short u sound
as in won or done. It doesn't sound to me like wander at all.

Yep, exactly. But what I want to know is, why "obligatory"?

Author:  benhall.1 [ Sun Mar 04, 2018 3:13 pm ]
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Nanohedron wrote:
oleorezinator wrote:
To my American ears she makes it sound like the short u sound
as in won or done. It doesn't sound to me like wander at all.

Yep, exactly. But what I want to know is, why "obligatory"?

Ah! Good question. Basically, 'cos, whenever I have attended a magical entertainment moment such as that on the recording, it has had a sort of final punctuation provided by a - usually female - American, shouting out - in awe - when everyone else is in genuine awe. (Yeah, I'm in an ornery mood tonight. :twisted: )

Author:  Nanohedron [ Sun Mar 04, 2018 3:44 pm ]
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Well, I'm sure there are a host of cultural and personal elements to speculate over as to the reason why a Yank would be more likely to vocalize - I have my own theories - but in his or her defense (couldn't tell if it was male or female), at least this one didn't shout.

Author:  benhall.1 [ Sun Mar 04, 2018 4:00 pm ]
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Nanohedron wrote:
Well, I'm sure there are a host of cultural and personal elements to speculate over as to the reason why a Yank would be more likely to vocalize - I have my own theories - but in his or her defense (couldn't tell if it was male or female), at least this one didn't shout.

I guess it's a matter of perception.

Author:  Nanohedron [ Sun Mar 04, 2018 4:04 pm ]
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Must be.

Author:  Thomaston [ Sun Mar 04, 2018 6:52 pm ]
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benhall.1 wrote:
Thomaston wrote:
I must confess I’ve never bothered to learn the tune, despite 13 years of playing and accumulating hundreds of tunes. I can hear it in my head, so could probably figure it out without trouble, but just never felt the desire to.

Really? It's a great tune. I love it.


I just recalled that one reason I never got around to it is that I felt it didn’t sound “right” when folding up those low notes at the end. Now that I’m playing a good bit of mandolin I might revisit it.

Author:  oleorezinator [ Mon Mar 05, 2018 12:16 am ]
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Nanohedron wrote:
Well, I'm sure there are a host of cultural and personal elements to speculate over as to the reason why a Yank would be more likely to vocalize - I have my own theories - but in his or her defense (couldn't tell if it was male or female), at least this one didn't shout.

It's very simple. In America we are permitted
to exhibit emotion.

Author:  kenny [ Mon Mar 05, 2018 6:39 am ]
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Could some kind person please test this link and let me know if it works or not ? Thanks.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/wkhpg4lc2ssk ... mCVua?dl=0

Author:  Mr.Gumby [ Mon Mar 05, 2018 7:32 am ]
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It works. Although perhaps the WAV is a bit prohibitive when steamed over West Clare connections. He seems to tackle Johnny Doherty's version, the small bit I heard anyway.

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