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PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2020 9:25 pm 
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Hey folks.

Im looking for some insight into an issue with my C#. I understand it is supposed to be slightly flat compared to some other notes according to this site http://www.upreeds.com/?q=content/tuning-0, however it's coming up at least twice, or even three times flatter than what that site suggests. But, every other note is coming up pretty close to the sites recommendation (and in tune with my drones).

I'm at a real loss to explain this and correct it. Any insight would be super helpful.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 6:24 am 
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My c# always is off the tuner but sounds ok when I play. Have you tried more or less pressure on that note to see if affects tuning ?

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 9:36 am 
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deisman wrote:
My c# always is off the tuner but sounds ok when I play. Have you tried more or less pressure on that note to see if affects tuning ?


Yup. The pressure doesnt seem to make much of a difference. Also the back D is fine, which I know is greatly affected by pressure.

If it's fairly common to be so flat, perhaps im just not used to it? But I feel like this is a new thing. Although I've only recently started learning with drones... It sounds the worst with drones going.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 11:19 am 
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If your ear tells you the note doesn't sit well on the drones, then your ear is probably right. With just intonation, the note is flatter than equal temperament because the equal temperament C# would be dissonant against the drones. But if the note is flattened too much, then you end up with the same problem in the other direction.

Have you tried placing the reed staple deeper into the reed seat to see if this sharpens the C# note until it sounds acceptable?
If this ends up sharpening other notes too much (it would affect the notes at the top more than the bottom), then you could flatten them with tape or rushes to compensate.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 11:46 am 
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It not normal that C# is flat. C natural should be a little flat but not C#.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2020 11:17 am 
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RenaissanceGuy wrote:
If your ear tells you the note doesn't sit well on the drones, then your ear is probably right. With just intonation, the note is flatter than equal temperament because the equal temperament C# would be dissonant against the drones. But if the note is flattened too much, then you end up with the same problem in the other direction.

Have you tried placing the reed staple deeper into the reed seat to see if this sharpens the C# note until it sounds acceptable?
If this ends up sharpening other notes too much (it would affect the notes at the top more than the bottom), then you could flatten them with tape or rushes to compensate.


Thanks for the info. I did try sinking the reed a wee bit before making this post, but not much. I'm thinking this may have to be my solution though so I will try it again today, tape the other notes and see what happens.

It's very odd, because this exact issue is happening with my SSPs. I've had to tape every hole except my C to get the damn thing in tune! Maybe it's just my office where I tune!?


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