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 Post subject: Goretex Bag
PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 10:51 am 
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Hey all,

I'm a GHB player who is going to be officially starting with uilleann this summer and I had a question about bags.

For my money a pure synthetic bag (on GHB) is almost unplayable. I hate striking in with the things, find them uncomfortable any time I am trying an overblow or on my cutouts. Are uilleann goretex bags as annoying?

I know some people like them, they sell tons of them, but most GHB players I know don't think very much of them, the term I hear bandied about quite often is "beach ball." I play a hide/synthetic, and in my opinion it's the best of both worlds. Low maintenance and a satisfying feel.

The practice sets I've been looking at have largely been fitted with goretex bags. I just want to know if I'll be trashing that on day 2, or if the difference in how the two pipes are played makes them tolerable or even preferable in some way (outside no maintenance).

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 Post subject: Re: Goretex Bag
PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 12:21 pm 
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A good leather bag works so well that I would never be tempted to try a synthetic bag of any variety. YMMV.

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 Post subject: Re: Goretex Bag
PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 4:13 pm 
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Curiously, Paddy Keenan plays with synthetic bags. He was converted when he tried a homemade naugahyde bag. His preferance is based on the ability to roll the bag into a very small space, and its lightness. He also prefers a bass regulator that can be removed from the stock. His sets generally break down to quite a compact set. His cases are smaller than average to aid carrying about. If you will allow the pun. ´He is a Travelling Man´ :D

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 7:57 pm 
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Leather is by far the most common material for uilleann bags. The majority of professionally made bags don’t require seasoning.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 3:03 pm 
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I play GHP as well (Bannatyne Hybrid) and curious about which makers you're talking to who are supplying synthetic bags as standard. Though I'm sure there are some and I may be out in left field here, but I don't know of any "quality" makers who'd supply anything other than a leather bag.


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 Post subject: Re: Goretex Bag
PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 4:25 pm 
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I am not sure where the idea of any maker supplying a synthetic bag as ´standard´ has been found in this discussion. Some pipers have expressed a preference for synthetics, Some despise ´em. One thing for certain, bags and bellows get a lot of wear, and are easily swapped out. . .at the owner´s choice.
I detested the neoprene bag I got supplied as ´standard´ by Kevin Thompson. To add insult to injury, the air pollution here in the ´States, which apparently is much higher than Malahide, soon caused it to fail. That problem was soon solved by my learning to saddle stitch a carefully chosen black-smith side into a custom bag that well and faithfully served me over twenty years. I love my leather Kelleher replacement. Niall and Daniela supply brilliant work.
However, I certainly am not a touring piper. Paddy, is, and expressed his desire for portability over the bulk of leather. As with all things, YMMV.

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Hmm, I could definitely be wrong here, but the naugahyde bags I've seen are not lighter or more compact than leather.

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Bannatyne make goretex uilleann pipe bags. £50 plus tax for the basic bag, £70 plus tax for the one with a zipper.


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 Post subject: Re: Goretex Bag
PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 11:16 pm 
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Rhaco wrote:
The practice sets I've been looking at have largely been fitted with goretex bags.

Where are you looking???


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 Post subject: Re: Goretex Bag
PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2020 3:45 pm 
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Rhaco wrote:
Hey all,

For my money a pure synthetic bag (on GHB) is almost unplayable. I hate striking in with the things, find them uncomfortable any time I am trying an overblow or on my cutouts. Are uilleann goretex bags as annoying?

Whatever you decide on the most important
thing that a up bag needs to do besides not leak
is to hold the chanter upright on the knee when inflated
so that the fingers are free to move without supporting
the chanter. With a scotch pipe bag the chanter is
hanging down supported by the neck. As far as leather
is concerned 4 to 5 ounce leather is the ticket.

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