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 Post subject: Re: Paddy Moloney rap
PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2018 1:05 pm 
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PB+J wrote:
In US history (what I do for a living)  "scots-irish" or "Scotch Irish" is taken to mean Protestants who left Scotland, settled in ireland, and then left Ireland for the US.  

The Scotch-Irish get a bit of a black eye--there's a famous book that argues that the peaceful, tolerant quakers who initially settled philadelphia (my home town) were displaced by the more rapacious scotch-irish, who right away started abrogating treaties with the indians

Part of that black eye was well deserved.
If they were born in Ireland they were listed
as Irish. Once the famine Irish were shipped
to the U.S. the tune changed.
From wikiworld:
"Upon arrival in North America, these migrants at first usually identified simply as Irish, without the qualifier Scotch. It was not until a century later, following the surge in Irish immigration after the Great Irish Famine of the 1840s, that the descendants of the earlier arrivals began to commonly call themselves Scotch-Irish to distinguish themselves from the newer, predominantly Catholic and poor immigrants; these largely had no Scottish ancestry."

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