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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 4:20 am 
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I dont play regs that often but this system seems to give a lot more scope for different chords.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 6:55 am 
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There are a few clips on youtube of a 3/4 set. Sounds good on minor tunes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBcWdcs5M_I

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1T0bvE63pzU


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I too, am not a frequent regulator player, as I have struggled with that part off the art.

But the question needs to be asked in this discourse is:

Why was the Original Chord System Chosen - and by Who!

And, can some kind Ergonomic Specialist PLEASE define the parameters, with solutions, for setting up any given set, such that the regs can be reached easily, with what ever body shape, etc is involved!

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 3:30 pm 
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A diagram is a diagram. Has this idea been fully realized on a working set yet?
Picking out one key from that grouping of F nat, F #, G must be very difficult.
And I lament the lack of a baritone E + tenor G chord to use against the C natural on the chanter, surely the most glorious possible combination. I mean yeah, looking at the diagram it *looks* possible, but in practice?
I am happy enough trying to exhaust the possibilities of a (slightly tweaked) traditional setup.
That said I would love to hear this, if Benoît has actually constructed it.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 4:26 pm 
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Seems interesting

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 4:38 pm 
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Pipewort wrote:
I too, am not a frequent regulator player, as I have struggled with that part off the art.

But the question needs to be asked in this discourse is:

Why was the Original Chord System Chosen - and by Who!

And, can some kind Ergonomic Specialist PLEASE define the parameters, with solutions, for setting up any given set, such that the regs can be reached easily, with what ever body shape, etc is involved!

Pwort


Regulators started off as a single 'piggyback' to add some additional accompaniment to pastoral pipes. There is an example of an early set with 8 keys but 4 or 5 was more common. Over time a second, third and fourth were added. I suspect the three regulator configuration that is fashionable these days arrived due to a number of factors including ease of access, musicality, cost.

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As far as ergonomics are concerned, stock placement in the bag is key, I prefer higher up and use a strap, but there are some who prefer across the knee. Incidentally, my pipes are a standard three regulator with an additional E regulator, in the style of the Touhey set.

Benoit's pipes appear to have the benefit of being able to adjust individual regulators to their optimum playing position.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 11:42 pm 
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I'll try to answer the questions :D
First: yes, I did it ! At this stage, only the 3/4 set has been achieved. I had ("we", actually, because two of them have been made) to check how the system is playable, and how does the mechanic works.
Big discussion is going on on what has to be improved in the future.

The reason why I worked on this project is, at the beginning, based on the following ideas:
-Regulators playing is quite a challenge, but it appears, when you get to manage with it, that comparing with what can be done on the chanter, their harmonic abilities is really a bit limited. (I know, limitations can be the purpose for musical imagination, but we can nevertheless legitimately expect more from a device worth half the price of the whole instrument...);
-I always thought three regulators as the maximum width allowed by "normal" playing. All the attempts for enlarging the system by adding more and more regs created unplayable monsters;
-some very interesting and usefull "cross chords" are availlable between baryton and bass, but only accessible with finger playing between bryton and tenor;
-I have got the mechanical training and outfit allowing to try something in order to enlarge these harmonic possibilities, without enlarging the keyboard.
Why not to try! :party:

As you can see on the few videos I sent on Youtube, the result appears to be not such an aberration.
The most significant thing for me is that, if you don't know the system is new, you can't really notice it. Things are rather well matching together.

You can notice also I have no aims to revolutionate irish music. The purpose is only to make an instrument a bit more adaptated to answer the expectations of the music as it is.

In the matter of sound, my approach is exactly the opposite: I'm working as a mad on reeds, hoping to find how did Leo Rowsome to make pipes sounding like this !

Yes, there's a debate on wich is the best place for the E-G chord! :P :P Things are still on progress...

Here are a few links:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBcWdcs5M_I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mq-nS6OmX5c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1T0bvE63pzU&t=106s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyB584etx6Y&t=50s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdqjzsvZzy4


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 6:22 am 
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Will you be making sets for sale?
There seems to be a lot of work in making your style of pipes will this make them expensive?

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 8:38 am 
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This is the idea, yes, but you must consider me as a 50 years old youngster, starting on since 20 years with the job ! :D
It's a way to say that everything is still going on , and that the workshop is not yet running at full speed, with a constant and steady production.
Precisely because -and that'll answer your second question-I spend a lot of time (besides reedmaking and developing the project) at making devices and equipments in order to reduce the cost (and work precisely).
So: no, the price won't be outrageously high.
It's to early to get a true idea of what will be a realistic price for these instruments, but they certainly won't cost much than the most expensive sets availlable...

I must add that, as suggested above, the model is not absolutely defined.
I feel many things are to be discussed with the coming customers... :P


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 6:01 pm 
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Vraiment fascinant, Benoît. Je t’ai envoyer un friend request sur FB.


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