It is currently Fri Jun 05, 2020 10:33 am

All times are UTC - 6 hours


Forum rules


The purpose of this forum is to provide a place for people who are interested in the Irish language and various Celtic languages to discuss them, to practice them, and to share information about them, particularly (but not exclusively) in the context of traditional music and culture.

This is not a "translation forum," per se, though translation requests may occasionally be honored at the discretion of the moderators. If you're seeking a one-time translation for something like a tattoo, engraving, wedding vow, or other such purpose, we strongly recommend that you visit our friends at ILF: http://irishlearner.awyr.com



Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 4 posts ] 
Author Message
 
PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 11:52 am 
Offline

Joined: Wed Feb 03, 2010 11:46 am
Posts: 2
Hello to all :)

I'm currently translating a book by an Irish author and I came across the following phrase "Cu na Gealai Duibhe". It apparently means "Hound of the Black Moon", but I have no idea how it's pronounced. Would someone give me a transcription? I would appreciate it a lot :)


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 
PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 1:24 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue May 28, 2002 6:00 pm
Posts: 6051
Location: Somewhere in the Western Hemisphere
Trip wrote:
Hello to all :)

I'm currently translating a book by an Irish author and I came across the following phrase "Cu na Gealai Duibhe". It apparently means "Hound of the Black Moon", but I have no idea how it's pronounced. Would someone give me a transcription? I would appreciate it a lot :)


Well, you've got it misspelled a bit. It should be:

Cú na Gealaí Duibhe

Pronounced, roughly:

Koo nuh GYAL-ee DIV-uh

Those accents are important. Without them the words are misspelled, would be mispronounced by any native reader, and can even change meaning.

For a better idea, plug the words INDIVIDUALLY into this synthesizer:

http://www.abair.tcd.ie/index.php?page= ... s&lang=eng

It works best word-by-word. If you try to plug entire phrases into it, it sometimes truncates individual words. And DO make sure you get the accents in there. There are buttons for the accented vowels below the posting form.

Redwolf

_________________
...agus déanfaidh mé do mholadh ar an gcruit a Dhia, a Dhia liom!


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 
PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2010 6:38 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun Feb 08, 2004 12:33 am
Posts: 5199
Location: Eastern Australia
Redwolf wrote:
.......Those accents are important. Without them the words are misspelled, would be mispronounced by any native reader, and can even change meaning.
.........


yes, its the same for many languages transcribed into english roman script without the benefit of accents.

_________________
qui jure suo utitur neminem laedit


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 
PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2010 7:59 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue May 28, 2002 6:00 pm
Posts: 6051
Location: Somewhere in the Western Hemisphere
talasiga wrote:
Redwolf wrote:
.......Those accents are important. Without them the words are misspelled, would be mispronounced by any native reader, and can even change meaning.
.........


yes, its the same for many languages transcribed into english roman script without the benefit of accents.


True. You'd be surprised how many people omit them, though...or even put accents on every letter, under the impression that they are merely decoration!

My favorite examples (from Irish):

Seán: A man's name, variant of "John." Pronounced "Shawn"

Séan: As a noun, a sign or omen. As a verb "deny." Pronounced "Shayn"

Sean: A prefix meaning "old."

Then there's:

Éire: Ireland. Pronounced "AY-reh"

Eire: Burden. Pronounced "EHR-eh"

Redwolf

_________________
...agus déanfaidh mé do mholadh ar an gcruit a Dhia, a Dhia liom!


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 4 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 6 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
[ Time : 0.104s | 11 Queries | GZIP : On ]
(dh)