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PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 3:51 pm 
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I've hit the forums from multiple systems (one running Avast, one running Symantec's corporate antivirus system and firewall).

So far I've not seen any evidence that the forums are infected.

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Thank you, James. Most appreciated.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 6:13 pm 
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Nothing wrong from here, either; I'm logging in via Opera from a box running XP.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 6:43 pm 
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Dale wrote:
MTGuru is a big help, but I don't think he's an expert on all of this either.

It's willful ignorance, don't you know. :wink:

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 7:02 pm 
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as long as it's willful you'll just take longer ta figure it out :D


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Doug_Tipple wrote:
I tried to log on C & F yesterday, but every time I tried, my computer froze up. I had to do a control alt delete to back out. There was a screen from Norton security saying that there was an attempt to infect my computer, which, luckily, my security software was able to take care of each time. There were several security updates that came through the day before in the daytime, when my usual automatic security updates are in the early morning. The trojan horse or whatever was identified by name, but I didn't write it down. I read yesterday that there are growing instances of these types of malware attacks, and that an estimated one in ten computers in the USA (I believe) are presently affected, with sensitive personal data available to the hackers. The whole internet insecurity mess scares me.


That's what happened to me too but I thought it was just my computer. Guess not. :P

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Guys, when you have a virus message or any error that looks like it may be virus or malware-related, always:

1. STOP what you are doing

2. write down the error

3. if you are using broadband, hit the "standby" button on top of the modem to go offline. If your PC has been compromised, this will prevent it from being remote controlled or used for anything nefarious.

Then you'll need to do a virus scan with whatever program you're using. Most will have an option for a quick scan, do that, and then run a full scan that night. If the quick scan is clean, you can go back online, but do a full scan that night just to be sure.

Here's the why: some viruses trash out the hard drive, but the data is sometimes recoverable, if you know what caused the damage.

Just offering a few pointers to try to help keep your online experiences positive.

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Something is going around. This just happened to one of the more important alternative financial websites www.financialsense.com

Question - who is your hosting provider? GoDaddy? Google?

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 7:47 am 
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Casey Burns wrote:
Something is going around. This just happened to one of the more important alternative financial websites http://www.financialsense.com

Question - who is your hosting provider? GoDaddy? Google?

Casey


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Rich is helping (Yay!) and is confident this board is not infected. It's on a private server.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 9:55 am 
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It's good to know that C & F is not currently infected by a virus. However, since a number of hosting providers recently have been infected by a new trojan virus that embeds itself in the codes of the subscribing websites, it is not unreasonable to think that there is a good possibility that we might encounter this again, no matter where we happen to be on the internet.

Thanks to James for his helpful comments about how to deal with this from the point of view of the individual user. Let's see. I have to remember to wear my armor when I go into battle, or something like that. Right, James?

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I have to remember to wear my armor when I go into battle, or something like that. Right, James?


:) That's pretty much the idea, yes.

At absolute minimum, using a Windows system, you should have a current antivirus package, and at least once a week update its definitions. Run a firewall--the Windows firewall in XP (at least SP2) or Vista is fine.

Much better is to have both antivirus and software firewall, and also have a hardware firewall offering stateful packet inspection (newer routers will already have this), and have an anti-malware package such as Windows Defender (mediocre-good) or Spybot Search and Destroy (much better). If you're going to be doing much web surfing at all, you really need these, especially the hardware firewall.

I want to mention the hardware firewall again as lots of folks don't understand why they need a router if they are only going to have one computer that goes on the internet. A hardware firewall makes your network pretty much invisible to hackers. It's not 100%, but it protects you from everything except very dedicated, non-trivial attempts to access your system. This is a level of protection far past what any software firewall can provide.

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peeplj wrote:
...I want to mention the hardware firewall again as lots of folks don't understand why they need a router if they are only going to have one computer that goes on the internet. A hardware firewall makes your network pretty much invisible to hackers. It's not 100%, but it protects you from everything except very dedicated, non-trivial attempts to access your system. This is a level of protection far past what any software firewall can provide...


James has it right, in terms of hardware firewall versus software firewall.

I've been using a (brand name) Netgear router, which also includes a hardware firewall.

Hardware firewall, way to go!


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Norton has this report:
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General Info
Web Site Location United States of America


Norton Safe Web has analyzed chiffandfipple.com for safety and security problems. Below is a sample of the threats that were found.
Threat Report
Total threats found: 12


Drive-By Downloads (what's this?)
Threats found: 12
Here is a sample:

Threat Name: Suspicious.MH690
File name: C:\Documents and Settings\user\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\G1Q9SRO7\e_x_e_ld[1].exe
Signature (MD5): 4b703a5ee34434d65e7aac685195ac27
Location: http://www.chiffandfipple.com/cf-December2005/



Threat Name: Suspicious.MH690
File name: C:\Documents and Settings\user\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\G1Q9SRO7\e_x_e_ld[1].exe
Signature (MD5): 4b703a5ee34434d65e7aac685195ac27
Location: http://www.chiffandfipple.com/cf-January05/



Threat Name: Suspicious.MH690
File name: C:\Documents and Settings\user\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\MH25YLE5\e_x_e_ld[1].exe
Signature (MD5): 4b703a5ee34434d65e7aac685195ac27
Location: http://www.chiffandfipple.com/cfSeptember2005/



Threat Name: Suspicious.MH690
File name: C:\Documents and Settings\user\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\MH25YLE5\e_x_e_ld[1].exe
Signature (MD5): 4b703a5ee34434d65e7aac685195ac27
Location: http://www.chiffandfipple.com/cf-JUNE2004/index.htm



Threat Name: Suspicious.MH690
File name: C:\Documents and Settings\user\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\GZKDIZWD\e_x_e_ld[1].exe
Signature (MD5): 4b703a5ee34434d65e7aac685195ac27
Location: http://www.chiffandfipple.com/cf-MARCH2005/



Threat Name: Suspicious.MH690
File name: C:\Documents and Settings\user\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\W96RIBA9\e_x_e_ld[1].exe
Signature (MD5): 4b703a5ee34434d65e7aac685195ac27
Location: http://www.chiffandfipple.com/cf-december2004/



Threat Name: Suspicious.MH690
File name: C:\Documents and Settings\user\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\W96RIBA9\e_x_e_ld[1].exe
Signature (MD5): 4b703a5ee34434d65e7aac685195ac27
Location: http://www.chiffandfipple.com/cf-May2004/index.htm



Threat Name: Suspicious.MH690
File name: C:\Documents and Settings\user\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\MH25YLE5\e_x_e_ld[1].exe
Signature (MD5): 4b703a5ee34434d65e7aac685195ac27
Location: http://www.chiffandfipple.com/march2006/



Threat Name: Direct link to Suspicious.MH690
Location: http://www.chiffandfipple.com/webissues.html



Direct link to: http://www.chiffandfipple.com/whistlehaiku/
Location: http://www.chiffandfipple.com/

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 10:26 pm 
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BTW, I haven't had any trouble, lately, in getting to C&F.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 8:26 am 
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I have to remember to wear my armor when I go into battle, or something like that. Right, James?


:) That's pretty much the idea, yes.

At absolute minimum, using a Windows system, you should have a current antivirus package, and at least once a week update its definitions. Run a firewall--the Windows firewall in XP (at least SP2) or Vista is fine.

Much better is to have both antivirus and software firewall, and also have a hardware firewall offering stateful packet inspection (newer routers will already have this), and have an anti-malware package such as Windows Defender (mediocre-good) or Spybot Search and Destroy (much better). If you're going to be doing much web surfing at all, you really need these, especially the hardware firewall.

I want to mention the hardware firewall again as lots of folks don't understand why they need a router if they are only going to have one computer that goes on the internet. A hardware firewall makes your network pretty much invisible to hackers. It's not 100%, but it protects you from everything except very dedicated, non-trivial attempts to access your system. This is a level of protection far past what any software firewall can provide.

--James


I have a question, James, if you don't mind. I have a Belkin Wireless G router that I purchased about 18 months ago when my wife got her laptop. My desktop computer feeds out of the router, but it is a direct connection. I don't see anything on the packaging box about the presence of a firewall with the router, so I assume that there isn't one. My wife also complains about the downloads being really slow. She has Vista Home Basic OS using Windows IE. In order to speed up her downloads and provide the protection of a hard firewall, can you recommend a replacement router that is not too expensive but would fill our needs for greater security and increased speed?

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