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fipple kaval with same fingering as end blown?

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 8:33 am
by hove64
hi.
i have a D (Bulgarian style fingering) 7 holes, (plus one at the back), PVC, end blown kaval, which i love.
is there to buy a fipple kaval, with same fingering across the octavs, so i can give my lips a rest, without changing fingering?
(is it possible?)

thanks.

Re: fipple kaval with same fingering as end blown?

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 1:33 pm
by FrankPerrone
I think there is a Turkish instrument called a dilli kaval that is a duct (fipple) flute and also something from Armenia called a shvi. They seem to have seven finger holes and a thumb hole so I imagine you could use the same fingerings.
I have had mixed (actually not good) results buying ethnic winds on line. Some of them are more like tourist display pieces than playable instruments. Be careful. Is there any large Middle Easten communities in your area? If so there might be someone that could assist you. Musicians of all ethnicities are usually eager to talk music.
Frank P.

Re: fipple kaval with same fingering as end blown?

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 2:26 pm
by hove64
thanks a lot.
the dili kaval is a good idea.
i will check it first.
if not, i will look into the shvi.
cheers

Re: fipple kaval with same fingering as end blown?

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 2:37 pm
by hove64
o.k.
no for dili kaval:

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=97493

Re: fipple kaval with same fingering as end blown?

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 2:42 pm
by hove64
no for the shvi:
http://duduk.ca/dudukhtml/shvifingering.html

interesting instrument, though.

Re: fipple kaval with same fingering as end blown?

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 3:23 pm
by MichaelLoos
Viktor Terziiski offers a "duduk-kaval" which has the same fingering as the traditional kaval but a fipple mouthpiece like Bulgarian duduk (a wooden whistle, not to be confused with the Armenian duduk which is a reed instrument) - however, I have never tried any of his instruments. http://www.flutemaster.net/

Re: fipple kaval with same fingering as end blown?

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:20 am
by hove64
thank you.
i will look into it.

Re: fipple kaval with same fingering as end blown?

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:36 am
by hove64
Bulgarian dudk has 6 holes.
and what a sweet sound.
i love it!

Re: fipple kaval with same fingering as end blown?

Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 2:09 pm
by hove64
I think I will leave this idea, and just continue to develop my endurance in playing the rim blown style which I love much more than the fipple style.
Thanks to all.
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