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mcelvogue wrote:This has to be my favourite though - absolute class - love the piano playing enormously and the flute playing - what exhuberence!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZ8KN-Y1 ... re=related
Yes, that's the one that also caught my ear tonight... been playing The Sweetness of Mary a lot myself recently and have always loved Jean's Reel (a 'local' tune by the great Bobby MacLeod of Tobermory and named for his wife), but struggle just to make a good job of the notes there without spicing it up further!
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Peter Duggan wrote:
mcelvogue wrote:This has to be my favourite though - absolute class - love the piano playing enormously and the flute playing - what exhuberence!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZ8KN-Y1 ... re=related
Yes, that's the one that also caught my ear tonight... been playing The Sweetness of Mary a lot myself recently and have always loved Jean's Reel (a 'local' tune by the great Bobby MacLeod of Tobermory and named for his wife), but struggle just to make a good job of the notes there without spicing it up further!

I'm somewhat relieved that he doesn't play "The Sweetness of Mary" in A major but somehow I guess it wouldn't be a problem given the other tunes he has up there. I wasn't aware of the background of Jean's reel, I'm going to give that another try - great reel indeed.

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mcelvogue wrote:I'm somewhat relieved that he doesn't play "The Sweetness of Mary" in A major but somehow I guess it wouldn't be a problem given the other tunes he has up there.
Yep, I'm playing it in nominal G too, but mostly sounding Ab (on Eb flute) or A (low E whistle) by choice. Though I'm pretty sure Calum Stewart posted a video of it in F recently...
I wasn't aware of the background of Jean's reel, I'm going to give that another try - great reel indeed.
And sure Bobby wrote that one in F, though I don't think I've ever heard a flute player daft enough to try (confession: I used to do it on descant recorder but would maybe go for G now)!
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jemtheflute wrote:Coming late to this though I've been following.....

And, referring to the earlier conversation about 3/4 tunes which are not waltzes, here's a lovely Welsh example (dots) - Y Pural Fesur.
and here's my offering of 3/4 tunes that aren't waltzes, perhaps not so lovely but it seems everything I compose these days is in 3/4 timing.

http://soundcloud.com/mcelvogue/tmcbinaryformattempt010

10,000 chiff points to anyone that can play this on the flute (without transposing) only joking of course, I don't have the chiff points to give away!

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Peter Duggan wrote:Though I'm pretty sure Calum Stewart posted a video of it in F recently...
Yep, here it is, and sorry (for thread purposes) it's not a waltz! (Screwed up my previous post by editing instead of quoting, but managed to 'restore' it now.)
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That's great stuff and now on a Calum youtube distraction......
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mcelvogue wrote:and here's my offering of 3/4 tunes that aren't waltzes, perhaps not so lovely but it seems everything I compose these days is in 3/4 timing.

http://soundcloud.com/mcelvogue/tmcbinaryformattempt010

10,000 chiff points to anyone that can play this on the flute (without transposing) only joking of course, I don't have the chiff points to give away!

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Got the dots to give away? I'll have a shot at it! ;-)

Calum certainly is distracting.... and so is swing waltz specialist Malo Carvou.....
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Hi Gem,
oooohhhh, the Malo Carvou clips are a total distraction. His version of indifference (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skGSYV1q ... plpp_video) is a killer. I'll PM the dots to you for my exercise (edit: I can't PM them so I'll put up a link and edit this post in a few minutes - dots are here - http://www.tommcelvogue.com/TMcBinaryFo ... pt010a.pdf), it seems all too tame now :-?

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Thanks Tom. I've printed it off and had a few plays through (of the top line! - two lines at once is beyond me.... ;-)). Although I have flutes which have the notes, the low D#-low B changes are nigh impossible, unsurprisingly, and I haven't a flute to low A!!! So, a little adaptation/folding will be necessary. Otherwise, there's nowt too awkward in it - the minor first half of the B music is no real problem. I haven't time for now to do more, but will try to get it recordable and make a clip soon.
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jemtheflute wrote:Thanks Tom. I've printed it off and had a few plays through (of the top line! - two lines at once is beyond me.... ;-)). Although I have flutes which have the notes, the low D#-low B changes are nigh impossible, unsurprisingly, and I haven't a flute to low A!!! So, a little adaptation/folding will be necessary. Otherwise, there's nowt too awkward in it - the minor first half of the B music is no real problem. I haven't time for now to do more, but will try to get it recordable and make a clip soon.


Fair play to you Gem, look forward to hearing it flutified!

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JackCampin wrote:"Ashokan Farewell" was not written as a waltz either (I don't know what category you could put it in apart from "unspeakably turgid bore") and its range is wrong for the flute (for which fluters can be thankful).
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THREAD REVIVAL!
Well, 6 months on, I've finally got around to making an audio clip of an attempt to play Tom McElvogue's "non-Waltz". As written it "goes off the bottom" of the flute in a couple of places, which I have had to adapt in a minor way. I haven't worked at it systematically, but have played through it on and off ever since acquiring the dots last August, and with a bit of intensive attention last night and this-morning, I've got it near-enough performable/under my fingers (reading the dots). I don't think I quite get up to the score metronome marking of crotchet = 140 nor manage to play some note-lengths eactly as notated. I didn't dare go for a second time round once I'd got an acceptable take of it once through! I also think it would go nicely rather slower!

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Re: Waltzes With Flutes

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Thank you.

And here is almost a waltz played on what is almost a flute.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFG5fG-y2S0
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