Firth, Hall & Pond boxwood 8 key

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Firth, Hall & Pond boxwood 8 key

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on the usual auction site.

not mine, and i'm not bidding, though it looks like a lovely flute.
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rh wrote:on the usual auction site.

not mine, and i'm not bidding, though it looks like a lovely flute.
Nice! A little out of my price range.
But I think it's a re-stamp import from England. (they even imported back then!) Looks a lot like a Clementi to me. I had another F,H&P that was clearly a English flute.
I think the company did a lot of buisness with Clementi and later with Prowse.
Notice the inerlocking Crows foot on the C# C keys.
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Jon, did ya notice the seller's ivory 6 key?
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Denny wrote:Jon, did ya notice the seller's ivory 6 key?
That is one of the fanciest Greman flutes (and most expensive) that I have ever seen! I wonder what the tuning is like?

As the late Andrew Kirby said "No respectable English flute maker would put the G# key on the second section...
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Jon C. wrote:
Denny wrote:Jon, did ya notice the seller's ivory 6 key?
That is one of the fanciest Greman flutes (and most expensive) that I have ever seen! I wonder what the tuning is like?

As the late Andrew Kirby said "No respectable English flute maker would put the G# key on the second section...
That may be one way the seller determined it was a one-key that was retrofitted. The joint between the two midsections probably precluded putting the G# on the left-hand section. Also, there's no neck/barrel, so no slide.

There's no mention of a maker's stamp. I would think something like this would definitely have a stamp.
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I got this flute and ask Jon C to restore :) !!

Jon C did a great job on this beauty!!

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With Olwell Prattan Keyless and Williams 5-Key :D .

Thank you Jon!!
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I had a look at the same flute when I still had a Hall and Son 8 key in Cocus. It does look considerably different, firstly the crow's foot arrangement. The shape of the keys, the form of the flute looks different as well, slightly wider, yet the wood thinner.

Amateur observations, I only play these things, I don't make them. But it looked a little fishy to me.

To the ivory flute, looks like a piece of junk. Someone can buy it for the novelty, my guess would be underwhelming.
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Lowden, what a beautiful flute! Congratulations. Jon C. certainly does fine work. He will get my business in the future. Best, Cyril.
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Lowden wrote:I got this flute and ask Jon C to restore :) !!

Jon C did a great job on this beauty!!

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With Olwell Prattan Keyless and Williams 5-Key :D .

Thank you Jon!!
Very pretty flute, Lowden, and yes, great job, Jon! What's this new voodoo you've got going Jon; now you don't even have to buy them, and they still come to you?!!! :wink:
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greenspiderweb wrote:
Lowden wrote:I got this flute and ask Jon C to restore :) !!

Jon C did a great job on this beauty!!

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Very pretty flute, Lowden, and yes, great job, Jon! What's this new voodoo you've got going Jon; now you don't even have to buy them, and they still come to you?!!! :wink:
Yes, I have got a good thing going for me!
This flute looked like it had not been played much since it was born, no cracks, original pads, which I replaced with new purse pads, it was covered with a thick layer of dirt, but cleaned up nice! The flute is a strong player, a real find. Like I said originally, I think it is a English flute, possibly a re-branded Clementi import. It has the look. It is a lot like the Metzler Boxwood that I have.
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Kind of makes you wonder? Both are good playing flutes, but the Metzler was maybe 20 years older, tuned more for the 420htz era. The F,H&P is in much better tuning.
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