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 Post subject: Lehart/copper rings
PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 1:48 am 
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Do any of you know if Gilles Lehart treats his copper in any way that would prevent it from turning funky colors as coppper often does?

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 Post subject: Re: Lehart/copper rings
PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:03 am 
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I had one for about 2 years and it did not turn particularly green or anything. I also noticed the rings were a little shiny, which hints of some sort of polishing or something, but I can't say with absolute certainty.
I think your best bet would be to ask Gilles himself. He was very responsive when I bought the flute.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:13 am 
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Thanks for the info. I am a little hesitant to reach out to Gilles, as I'm almost certain it would lead to the placing of an order.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 3:02 am 
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The copper rings on Lehart's flutes do gradually change color as they age. They develop a kind of patina that looks quite nice, in my opinion.
In fact, I would go so far as to say that I actually prefer the look of the aged rings over the new shiny ones. If you do a google image search for
"Lehart flute" you can easily find some examples of older flutes to see how the rings look.

I've had one of his low Bb flutes for about 10 years now, and I still love it. I like the unique look of Lehart's flutes, but more importantly, I like
how they play and sound.


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 Post subject: Re: Lehart/copper rings
PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 3:32 am 
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Thank you paddler, that is good to know. I love the look of aged copper, it's when it turns green and blue that it bothers me. It's nice to know you have held onto your Lehart flute for as long as you have, given how quickly flutes tend to cycle around here.

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 Post subject: Re: Lehart/copper rings
PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 4:13 am 
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I owned a Lehart Bb flute many years ago - the rings are not treated as far as I can tell.
They develop patina due to oxidation and if the flute is played are also handled and touched.
It would take many many years of undisturbed oxidation for them to turn green:
https://images.app.goo.gl/dbXMg4p2xYGS6C9F8


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 Post subject: Re: Lehart/copper rings
PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:48 am 
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Interesting chart. I guess that’s brass out and exposed to the elements? I suppose the trick to developing and sustaining a nice dark patina might be to wipe them down now and then but not too enthusiastically.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 1:59 pm 
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Interesting chart. I guess that’s brass out and exposed to the elements?

Exposure outside seems to be the key to getting that green patina over time, due to airborne sulfur and plenty of moisture and rain.

FWIW, I have a large custom-made copper exhaust hood over my kitchen stove. Pure copper, no clearcoat. We installed it 20 years ago, never polish it, and it's a typical dark copper-colored patina. It has never showed a hint of green color. Same with some solid copper pots and pans we have that are about the same age. I would expect copper rings on a flute to be the same, just darkening a bit over time.


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The flute I sold can be seen here:
https://www.irishflutestore.com/product ... -keyless-d
If you look at the third pic, you will notice what I meant by some sort of shine, above.


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 Post subject: Re: Lehart/copper rings
PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 1:19 am 
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That's a beauty, alright. I know it's not the main criteria when choosing a flute, but I really do like the look of his flutes.

So it's sounds like I would be ok as long as I didn't leave the flute outside for years at a time. I think even I can handle that.

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