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PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:26 pm 
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I have two Hammies - a 6 key and a custom short foot. Love them both.
They can be powerful and sweet, and they do require some getting used to.

I was in Philly when Conal's flute cracked into pieces. It was a workshop at the Irish Club somewhere around 2005-ish. He asked everyone to see their flute so he'd have an instrument for the concert that night. I don't remember who's he used, but he still had that typical sound he creates.

After that I think he found other makers flutes to play. Like many players, he probably has a drawer full of them.

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Does anyone know what kind of flute Conal O Grada plays? I can't imagine he has a hard time being heard at a session...


I read somewhere that he used to play an antique flute by R&R but with a Fentum head, and now plays a Hammy Hamilton flute which was made in 2011.


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I think you can get a look at Ó Grada´s early kit in this older video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrVpGbekbR4
Be patient, at about 34 seconds the cameraman figures out the focus. Loudness, volume, for a flute player is as much on the player as the instrument. But volume really doesn´t translate into musicality, or taste, and doesn´t always contribute to a rewarding session. One of my peeves is getting stuck with some @r$3Hol3 blasting in my ear, getting more and more out of tune.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 8:59 pm 
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an seanduine wrote:
I think you can get a look at Ó Grada´s early kit in this older video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrVpGbekbR4
Be patient, at about 34 seconds the cameraman figures out the focus. Loudness, volume, for a flute player is as much on the player as the instrument. But volume really doesn´t translate into musicality, or taste, and doesn´t always contribute to a rewarding session. One of my peeves is getting stuck with some @r$3Hol3 blasting in my ear, getting more and more out of tune.

Bob


I completely agree. Also wrote earlier that I'm not looking for a flute to become the loudest person in a session. Given my skills, I would probably hate that session myself :lol: . More as an instrument that gives me a high level to get to eventually :)


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We've mentioned several flutes that can be pushed to the limit and that take you a long ways--in my case farther than I can go. Some may be somewhat louder than others, but all are loud enough. Unless you want to break windows.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:11 am 
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jim stone wrote:
We've mentioned several flutes that can be pushed to the limit and that take you a long ways--in my case farther than I can go. Some may be somewhat louder than others, but all are loud enough. Unless you want to break windows.


Indeed, thanks all for that :)
Flute that breaks the window.... would make for a nice title to go with The wind that shakes the barley :D


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Seeking opinions/suggestions on the loudest keyless flutes one can find with maybe a year wait max (may or may not have large bores, not sure).


Just to satiate my own curiosity, out of all the qualities that one might look for in a flute (tone, responsiveness, ergonomics, resonance, air requirement, etc.), why is loudness at the top of your list? I'm genuinely curious :)

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 2:44 pm 
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Loudness is really a property of the player I think, given a flute that is not going to be overpowered by having a lot of air pushed through it. That means most flutes with larger holes and competently made can be pretty loud in the right hands.

I got a lot of noise out of my Windward keyless Pratten and continue to do so from its' keyed successor. I have a two part Burns Folk flute which can also be pretty loud and I have a McGee GLP which can carry quite well, but cannot be pushed as hard as the others. That does not make it a worse flute, just that it genuinely is a quieter flute. For that it has other advantages. (Ease of play, responsiveness, light weight, easy hole spacing.) And I can usually manage to hear myself in most sessions on any of them. The exception being some Cruinniu sessions, where I sometimes genuinely couldn't tell whether my flute was making any noise - totally swamped by lots of other flutes right next to me. I've never had that problem in any mixed instrument session though.

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Heh heh, I feel a bit of a dill joining in this conversation so late. Agreeing with others above, loudest is usually taken as a Prattens model, due to its big bore. And I happen to have a brand new keyless Prattens sitting on the desk beside me. I've added it to my Flutes Available Now page: http://www.mcgee-flutes.com/Avail-flutes.htm


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Flute that breaks the window.... would make for a nice title to go with The wind that shakes the barley


I think that tune is called "Roaring Jelly".


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My Skip Healy flute packs some serious volume.


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I think Skip's flutes are underrated.


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kintailpipes wrote:
My Skip Healy flute packs some serious volume.

There's one currently for sale on eBay.

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I add my 2 peneth to this . Not worth too much, I've played a good few flutes and can get plenty from a flute. (many years playing!!)

I only had a brief go on this flute. It would be nice to hear from anyone with more familiarity on them. A Martin Doyle one of the ones with the foot that flares out on the foot like a bell on a trumpet. It was hard for me to play it without being way too loud. It did seem very unusual. It was very easy to play it very loud. I soon put it down in a minute or two as I found it difficult to do anything much but loud. I expect given the right situation I could have found out what else was possible on it. BTW on my own flute and most flutes I can have a range of 'voices' or tones and volumes. It did seem extraordinary from the volume point of view. I'm not wanting to critique the flute as I know Martin is a great maker, but I did not like the tone and I found it too loud. Having said that I had not tried to see what could be got from it. The owner only seems to play whistle when I see him.

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gorjuswrex wrote:
Martin Doyle one of the ones with the foot that flares out on the foot like a bell on a trumpet

Yes I have had one of Martin's flutes for ages, you have to approach them with a Norniron power diddle intent...


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