It is currently Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:00 am

All times are UTC - 6 hours




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 10 posts ] 
Author Message
 
PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 1:31 am 
Offline

Joined: Thu Feb 06, 2020 3:07 pm
Posts: 43
I noticed on one of my flutes, the last ring on the foot joint has gone loose enough to rotate, but I haven't tried to do it a lot or pull it out. It doesn't fall off or anything.

Common causes?
Anything to worry about?
Should I contact the maker or if there is a quick fix to this?

Thanks in advance!


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 
PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 2:41 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jul 29, 2002 6:00 pm
Posts: 4334
Location: Los Angeles
A common cause is dehydration. Is the flute properly humidified?

_________________
International Traditional Music Society, Inc.
A non-profit 501c3 charity/educational public benefit corporation
Wooden Flute Obsession CDs (3 volumes, 6 discs, 7 hours, 120 players/tracks)
http://www.worldtrad.org


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 
PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 4:23 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jun 27, 2001 6:00 pm
Posts: 693
Location: Denmark
in addition to Kevin's comment, I'd say always contact the maker.
In the instructions from Solen Lesouef it states to never attempt to glue loose rings on. They have a structural function, so while the ring is loose the tendon is more vulnerable (unless it's the very bottom ring, I don't think there's a lot of pressure on that one)


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 
PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 7:03 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jul 29, 2002 6:00 pm
Posts: 4334
Location: Los Angeles
Here is the most referenced earlier discussion, with suggested fixes (after humidifying):

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=105605

There are some comments on techniques by flutemakers and repair persons.

_________________
International Traditional Music Society, Inc.
A non-profit 501c3 charity/educational public benefit corporation
Wooden Flute Obsession CDs (3 volumes, 6 discs, 7 hours, 120 players/tracks)
http://www.worldtrad.org


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 
PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 9:16 am 
Offline

Joined: Sat Jun 30, 2001 6:00 pm
Posts: 16954
Humidify immediately. Not necessarily dehydration but if it is, you stand to
have a good deal wrong if you don't. Usually dehydration.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 
PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 10:55 am 
Offline

Joined: Sat Mar 15, 2003 8:06 pm
Posts: 663
The following comment is assuming you have a wooden flute. For delrin glue would be fine, but:

I'm interested in the fact that no one suggested oiling with a natural almond oil. I have had that issue with a flute or two and oiling seems to do the trick. I also use spinning rings as a sign it is past time to oil the whole flute. It is indeed usually a sign that your flute is drying out a bit. A friend got too busy to deal with this one year and actually lost the ring off the bottom of his olwell. It was no where to be found. I happened to have a size 7 silicone wedding ring lying about. So I gave that to him to protect the flute until he could sort it out.

Oiling and keeping the flute humidified will likely avert that crisis. Glue will not be needed. If you can contact the maker of your flute they may have oiling methods they recommend.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 
PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 11:21 am 
Offline

Joined: Thu Sep 24, 2020 4:31 am
Posts: 6
That happened to me on my delrin flute. Should I be oiling it?


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 
PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 12:03 pm 
Offline

Joined: Tue May 26, 2015 10:18 pm
Posts: 319
Some woods & some flutes are more susceptible to shrinking than others.

I have a blackwood, flute from a respected modern maker with that problem. I live in a dry climate and he makes them in a more humid climate, so that is a likely explanation. With fairly heavy humidification I am able to tighten up some of the rings, but a couple of them never really tighten all the way.

I'm thinking about putting thread under the ring to keep from losing any of them.

I did consider a carbon fiber band, but ultimately, the flute just needs tighter rings, probably a saw-kerf and a resolder.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 
PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 12:40 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sat Mar 15, 2003 8:06 pm
Posts: 663
Charles Montgomery wrote:
That happened to me on my delrin flute. Should I be oiling it?



Oil will have no effect on a delrin flute. Subtle changes in size in wooden flutes only happen when the wood absorbs oil or moisture or releases oil or moisture.

The nice thing about delrin is its stability. Oil and humidity don't have any effect. That's why so many people like them. They are relatively impervious to changes in temperature and humidity. You could easily put your delrin flute in the bottom of a canoe and take a jaunt, never worrying about splashing on it or submerging it entirely.

In the case of a delrin flute you could just shim it with a bit of thread or use a glue that would stick. I'm not sure what glue you would use. Contact cement would be my first bet. It is pretty cheap and comes in small tubes. With contact cement you put a layer on each surface of the items you are trying to stick together, let them dry a bit, then press them together. You don't need any fancy clamping. The two surfaces stick to each other nicely. But there are better minds than mine regarding whether that is the best glue to use.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 
PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 5:12 pm 
Offline

Joined: Thu Feb 06, 2020 3:07 pm
Posts: 43
Thanks all for the tips.
I will try humidifying it more.
I have a couple other flutes that are kept in the same room and don't seem to have any issue, so maybe the rings are looser on this one to begin with.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 10 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 6 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: andrewtoml and 33 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
[ Time : 0.309s | 12 Queries | GZIP : On ]
(dh)