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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 12:21 am 
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I was cruising the internet tonight and came across a few ads for Roosebeck flutes, with a few different models available. They claim to be ebony or satinwood. I tried to search for a makers website, and only found ads. They range in price form ~$150-$250. one of the websites I found them on was Walmart. I assume these to be "Pakistani" flutes. Does anybody know anything about these? I did a search on the forum and came up with a few threads about uilliann pipes, and some cases, but no flutes. :-?

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Yup, pretty sure they'll be Pakistani.

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Any time you see the name Roosebeck, you can be confident that you're looking at Pakistani sweatshop-made unstruments.

Flutes at Walmart ... the very idea. That should be everyone's first clue.

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that's what I figured, but sometimes I get lucky. Not this time. I was hoping I'd be able to try before I buy, music shops in my area have absolutely nothing in the way of keyless flutes.

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Stev0 wrote:
that's what I figured, but sometimes I get lucky. Not this time. I was hoping I'd be able to try before I buy, music shops in my area have absolutely nothing in the way of keyless flutes.

Since you're here in the USA (like me), I recommend checking the stock at the Irish Flute Store:

https://www.irishflutestore.com/

I've dealt with them on several items, both selling and buying. It's a good resource for new and used flutes including beginner models. Much better than buying blind online unless it's a reputable Irish flute maker.


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Nanohedron wrote:
Any time you see the name Roosebeck, you can be confident that you're looking at Pakistani sweatshop-made unstruments.

Was the italicized an accidental or intentional misspelling?

In my opinion, Wal-Mart, Amazon, and that ilk are not viable sources for instruments. As Conical Bore said, a shop such as the Irish Flute Store is a much safer bet. Trying before you buy is, sadly, probably a thing of the past when it comes to aerophones. Audio clips will have to stand in as a substitute.

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Stev0 wrote:
... music shops in my area have absolutely nothing in the way of keyless flutes.

That would be a rara avis these days; everything's about antiseptic turnover for the common denominator instead of being a temple of the world of music. Back when I was a kid the local music shop had a lyrically arranged window display with real instruments, including ones from around the world - a sitar, tablas, a GHB (pretty hard to miss in its McLeod of Lewis bag cover), a violin of course, a trombone, a guitar, some kind of accordion no doubt, etc. It caught the eye and beckoned, speaking of a world of delights within - and the display never changed for as long as I can remember, so it served as the shop's calling-card. I never went in to check out the offerings, though; earlier I thought I was too young, and then later on I was otherwise occupied with my misspent youth. But I'd often go by the place just to look at that attractive and signature display.

If there were any place a super-niche interest like wooden simple-system flutes could be met, I like to think that would probably have been it; if not off the shelf, then they might well be on the grapevine and be able to find out who there was to order from - and be happy to do it. Nowadays people would call a shop like that quaint and retro. For me, it would be a relief.

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Nanohedron wrote:
Any time you see the name Roosebeck, you can be confident that you're looking at Pakistani sweatshop-made unstruments.

Was the italicized an accidental or intentional misspelling?

100% intentional. :twisted:

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Not to mention, for that kind of money, you could get at least a Dixon polymer flute (or one of the less-expensive instruments by known makers, such as the Hamilton practice flute) new, or many others secondhand...

I can see the Pakistani instruments seeming attractive if at a very low price point, but when one can literally get something much better for the same price or less...

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Katharine wrote:
Not to mention, for that kind of money, you could get at least a Dixon polymer flute (or one of the less-expensive instruments by known makers, such as the Hamilton practice flute) new, or many others secondhand...

The assertion that there are better options is 100% correct. Secondhand is likely not a viable option for me, though...

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