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Re: Embouchure - the horror!

Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 5:47 pm
by Nanohedron
neilC wrote:As promised, a clip. Jig of the Dead, Colraine Jig

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Seriously, if it weren't for the topic, I wouldn't have even noticed what you are calling side-blowing. To my eyes it's so slight that at first I wondered what you were talking about!

Re: Embouchure - the horror!

Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 7:13 pm
by busterbill
Sedi wrote:You mean this one?
https://youtu.be/M6XTJY2E2AQ
Thank you, yes. Sideblowers seem to be in pretty good company. :D

Re: Embouchure - the horror!

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 2:22 am
by neilC
Thanks for the Kevin Crawford clip - makes me feel a lot better - I think I'll forget retraining, and focus on improving what is already there!

Re: Embouchure - the horror!

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 2:26 am
by neilC
Nanohedron wrote:
neilC wrote:As promised, a clip. Jig of the Dead, Colraine Jig

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Seriously, if it weren't for the topic, I wouldn't have even noticed what you are calling side-blowing. To my eyes it's so slight that at first I wondered what you were talking about!
It actually came up because a group photo was taken for a band I started playing with, and a few people commented on an odd smile I had with one half of my mouth open, then I noticed I had totally different muscle development in my lips on either side so I started wondering why :) Being aware has already helped me improve so the journey continues!

Re: Embouchure - the horror!

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 2:26 pm
by ChrisCracknell
I started having problems with the low D until I noticed that there was a radical difference in my grip between low D and e.g. E (which was sounding stronger than the D!) which meant that the flute was moving out of position when I fingered the low D. Mainly due to my pinkie changing the level of support it was providing. Noticing this and compensating for it brought the D back just fine. So; not always embouchure...

Chris

Re: Embouchure - the horror!

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 2:31 pm
by busterbill
:D :thumbsup:

Re: Embouchure - the horror!

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 8:42 am
by neilC
Just to round this thread off - as part of checking issues I had with both low D and tuning, I checked every key (piece of cling-film under every key, then removed each to see if there was a difference) - result was an issue with my long F - the pads on my flute are pretty hard and the spring on that key is quite weak - so the pad was actually lifting when I blew low D (probably E too, but less noticeable) - the more it leaked the harder I tried and the more it lifted... I've put a rubber band around that key for the moment and the difference is huge - the flute honks!

So thanks for all the advice - I've learned a lot :)

Re: Embouchure - the horror!

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 9:34 am
by Sedi
Oh, never would have thought of that. But I did indeed have a similar problem with a boehm flute once. One of the pads was leaking.