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 Post subject: HELP Bb bass flute
PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:31 am 
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Jem you were involved in a post some time ago by Norman Holmes on the title he posted some pics of the same, we arrived at the thought that the bass was two different makers due to the key pads, Norman thought the flute to be a Boosey & Co I thought the bottom half to be Hawkes AZ.... I've tried to find the pics to no avail maybe you can or any other PC wizard could try? I'm in contact with NH who is trying to find them in his files.


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 Post subject: Re: HELP Bb bass flute
PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 10:13 am 
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Stand down not C&F but the flute history channel Nov 2017.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 23, 2019 4:55 am 
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As it's mentioned, I came across the said photographs. It's as well to have the photographs here for the record (and to see if these one-drive links work for hosting)

In the end the Hawkes Bb head and first joint did appear to be paired to a Boosey & Co lower joint. It played well. No doubt there's a flute kicking about in Ulster or Glasgow with the opposite configuration, unless this was a result of a made-up flute from residual 'band' stock .

These flutes aren't much good for players of trad as they are in high pitch but it sounds good on its own or with string players and such that can reach these higher marching band (mostly) flutes.

https://1drv.ms/u/s!ApfZgzm9X-3lh1NiyMr ... K?e=c9uGM4

Edited as I did say Boosey originally not Rudall as erroneously stated earlier

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 Post subject: Re: HELP Bb bass flute
PostPosted: Sat Nov 23, 2019 6:25 am 
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Thanks again Norman, excellent photo's. My take on this is it is definitely a Hawkes & Son head they all appear to be in ebonite for the mouth piece & fitted to a wooden body, the bottom I'm fairly sure from the top & bottom rings and the pad cups these are for the Hawkes & Son Crown AZ family? The top half with those raised pointed cups look to be Boosey & Co. So has anyone out there got some pics of a Bb bass flutes to see if I can find a complete example of a B&C & the AZ?


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 6:03 am 
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This flute is all ebonite, no wood.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 7:29 am 
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Yes Norman, what I wrote was that his type of mouthpiece is to be found mainly on Hawkes wooden bass flutes probably replacing the long straight head which was prone to cracking. It would also appear from my sightings that instead of two steady posts Hawkes used only one at the back end no doubt to make it easier to slide of the ebonite mouthpiece for replacement if cracked? I have yet to see a wooden mouthpiece example? I can't post pics for a better explanation. :-(


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 12:22 am 
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I made a bass Bb flute for my coworker who's about 7ft tall. His is about 4.5 feet long. I'm 6' and could only play it comfortably long enough to tune it.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 5:33 am 
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These are shorter flutes for flute bands in the main but even without the curved head looking at videos the players are struggling to keep erect with a straight head.


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