I consider all chemicals to be real, very real and natural, very natural. Haven't met an imaginary chemical yet. Haven't met an unnatural chemical either. Now ingredients, they come in natural and artificial, but that's another matter.

All very nice. But you haven't explained your comment to MTGuru.

Have no idea what you're on about, Mute. Maybe look up "artificial" in your dictionary, and the Latin roots of "artifice". Anyway, enough.

i actually came across some multi purpose spray deodouriser thing in a computer shop the other day. apparently is was 'super alkaline water' or something like that, that was ionized, mostly for laptop/computer surfaces, but the brochure said you could use it on shoes, carpets , even your face! don't know is that's the thing you're looking for though. my colleague bought a small bottle, and tried it, there was no smell/fragrance whatsoever, literally looked like water, as to how effective it is, i don't know

Interesting. That sounds like a liquid version of Doc's ozone treatment.