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scottish repertoire on A/D (14p) cornemuse?

Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 4:54 pm
by Gabriel
Hi,

I've been musing about border pipes and scottish repertoire during the last weeks - I like the border pipes, but from reading a lot on the web I learn that, despite not reaching the volume GHBs get, they're usually still quite loud, at least "they" say that about the easily available border pipes like Garvies. And difficult to control and and and. So I was wondering if anybody tried playing scottish repertoire on a 14 pouces A/D cornemuse? Slightly different fingering of course, but the range is the same (even bigger up to high d), six fingers down give A, seven down G, all the ornamentation should work the same etc., but they're supposed to be less loud - could that work?

I've read that Jon Swayne makes a cornemuse-inspired "border pipe" in A, but couldn't find more information about that.

Cheers,
G

Re: scottish repertoire on A/D (14p) cornemuse?

Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 5:53 pm
by brad maloney
Maybe I'm being obtuse, but if you want less volume have you considered Scottish Smallpipes? Same fingering, and basics are somewhat similar. although I don't personally like when they are played exactly like GHB's. SSP's are there own instrument and I think they deserve their own approach

Re: scottish repertoire on A/D (14p) cornemuse?

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2014 1:36 pm
by elbowmusic
These sets play at around a fiddle volume:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaw02HWofAI

But I'd love to find out if anyone is playing Scottish stuff on French pipes.

Re: scottish repertoire on A/D (14p) cornemuse?

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2014 4:28 pm
by fiddlerwill
Talking of J Swayne , his lowland chanter/reed combo is pretty mild as 'border' chanters go. Dont let an instruments difficulty put you off,. or yll never be a piper 8)

Re: scottish repertoire on A/D (14p) cornemuse?

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2014 5:11 pm
by Peter Duggan
Gabriel wrote:they're usually still quite loud, at least "they" say that about the easily available border pipes like Garvies. And difficult to control and and and.

But 'they' aren't necessarily right. And I've got Garvie border pipes. Though Moores are likely to be quieter (Fin Moore's own set at the 2013 LBPS comp. being the sweetest I've heard), which probably doesn't help unless they're taking orders again...

Re: scottish repertoire on A/D (14p) cornemuse?

Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2014 2:43 am
by robehickman
I have a set of swane G's which have a nice tone to them. While they are pritty loud, they have a much less 'cutty'/shrill sound than the highland pipe, which I've never liked the sound of, and still don't. I mainly use the pipes for playing with the morris side, playing ocarina/flute otherwise. There is good crossover as the Swane G set has the same basic rage as a 10 hole G ocarina.

From what Jack Campin has told me, higland pipe tunes when not played on the pipes (fiddle etc), are played in the key of G. So A G set would probably work.

As others have said, the smallpipes also have a much softer tone.

Re: scottish repertoire on A/D (14p) cornemuse?

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2014 11:43 am
by Peter Duggan
robehickman wrote:From what Jack Campin has told me, higland pipe tunes when not played on the pipes (fiddle etc), are played in the key of G.

Dunno what Jack's told you, but have to say I just don't get that!