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 Post subject: SSP tune identification?
PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 10:08 am 
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Looking for the name of Gary West's first tune here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0QorXZGGmw

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 10:43 am 
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Sorry I cant be of any help but it's a cracking little tune. I just picked it up quick enough. Sounds very familiar to me.
Do you know the name of the second well known tune that is also in my head somewhere but never took the time to learn it.
Thanks for the tunes, Peter,
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 11:05 am 
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dunnp wrote:
Do you know the name of the second well known tune

Nope, but I like that too (follows so naturally) and just have to learn them both! :)

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I think the second tune is "Aires De Pontevedra". I don't know what the first tune is at all.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 2:13 pm 
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Thanks, Bill (confirmed)... thought they might just be Galician or something!

Quick transcription straight from the video (not guaranteed perfect):

X:1
T:Tune played by Gary West
S:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0QorXZGGmw
N:Played on Scottish Smallpipes in D, notated in A
N:Some minor variations not transcribed
Z:Peter Duggan
M:C|
L:1/8
K:Hp
cd|:e2e2 a2a2|efec A2c2|BABc dBcd|efec ABcd|
e2e2 a2a2|efec A2c2|BABc d2B2|1 A4- AAcd:|2 A6 A2|
|:B2AB c2Bc|d2c2 B2AB|c2Bc d2cd|e4 eAce|
a2a2 fgaf|efec A2c2|BABc d2B2|1 A6 A2:|2 A4- AAcd||

X:2
T:Aires de Pontevedra (as played by Gary West)
S:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0QorXZGGmw
N:Played on Scottish Smallpipes in D, notated in A
N:Further variations played second time round but not transcribed here
Z:Peter Duggan
M:C|
L:1/8
K:Hp
e2|a2e2 c2de|fedc B3c|dcde fedB|edBG A2e2|
a2e2 c2de|fedc B2Bc|dcde fedB|edBG A2e2|
a2e2 c2de|fedc B2Bc|dcde fedB|edBG A2e2|
aecA cefe|decd BBBc|dcde fedB|\
M:3/2
edBG A4- AABc|
M:C|
dcdB cABc|dcdB cABc|ecdB cABc|cddB cAce|
fg3 gfge|agfe dcde|AddA dAde|agfe dcde|
AccA cAce|agfe dcde|B4 cecA|cecA BdBG|
B2e2 A4-|\
M:3/2
A8- AABc|\
M:C|
dcdB cABc|dcdB cABc|
dAdA cAcA|dAdA cAce|fg3 gfge|agfe dcde|
AddA dAde|agfe dcde|AccA cAce|agfe dcde|
B4 cecA|cecA BdBG|B2e2 A4-|\
M:3/2
A8- A2||

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Just remembered I'd seen him playing Galician tunes at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCb79cydwVo and, guess what, it's the same set with 'Aires de Pontavedra' mentioned in the comments! But he says in his spoken introduction that he can never remember the names of the tunes and thinks they might be in a book by George Greig, so anyone got that?

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Nice one Peter. I must have heard them on a Carlos Nunez recording I think. Good tunes.

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http://www.celticscores.com/sheet-music ... Pontevedra
here it is in real notation. simply transpose into the key of your choice. :thumbsup:

as for the first tune,
why not just ask him?
http://www.garywest.co.uk/index.php?opt ... &Itemid=89

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CHasR wrote:
http://www.celticscores.com/sheet-music/13_Airs_de_Pontevedra
here it is in real notation. simply transpose into the key of your choice. :thumbsup:

Aye, thanks... always good to have alternative sources (have also seen it on The Session etc. since Bill put a name to it), but I'd already got it jotted down (with MS paper and pencil) before I had the name...

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as for the first tune,
why not just ask him?
http://www.garywest.co.uk/index.php?opt ... &Itemid=89

Had thought of that too, and might well (see if he's remembered it himself yet!). :wink:

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Peter Duggan wrote:
But he says in his spoken introduction that he can never remember the names of the tunes and thinks they might be in a book by George Gregor, so anyone got that?

No wonder I couldn't find it when the name I was looking for turns out to be George Greig, with the book (called A New Way to Melrose and published by the LBPS) containing 'tunes from Scandanavia to Shetland, from Quebec to Galicia and Brittany and a whole lot more; 142 tunes in all, arranged for Scottish Smallpipes and Border Pipes.' So I've downloaded the contents list and Aires de Pontevedra is there, but still (after Googling the whole Asturian/Galician section) haven't identified that first tune and suspect I'm likely to end up 1. appealing to Gary West's memory for this one and 2. buying the book anyway for its very attractive content!

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Peter Duggan wrote:
the same set with 'Aires de Pontavedra' mentioned in the comments

Pontevedra (missed post edit window to correct spelling!).

Peter Duggan wrote:
So I've downloaded the contents list and Aires de Pontevedra is there, but still (after Googling the whole Asturian/Galician section) haven't identified that first tune

Just got the book, and it's Pasacorredoires de Ponteareas e Vilalba (strains 3 & 4), 'made popular by Gary West who played it on a Ceol Beg CD under the title of 'Three Wheeled Rabbit' because he didn't know the correct name (having learned it by ear in Galicia).'

It's apparently just the second half of the tune (the first two parts requiring G#s), with Gary also noted as playing the two parts of Aires de Pontevedra in reverse order.

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I learned these two tunes last Feb. at this years Celtic Arts Foundation Winter School by of all people Gary West. In their Seabeck Collection For Small Pipes And Fiddles the first tune is listed as Galician March #1 and the second tune Galician March #2 ("Aires de Pontevedra"). Sorry not much help on the first tune. Both were very popular at the school and played at every evening session.

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"Aires De Pontevedra" was probably first recorded in Scotland - and probably the UK - by PM Robert Mathieson, in the late 1980s, I would think. I learned it from his recording, and it's been a popular solo whistle piece since. It was me who posted the version at "thesession.org", although the parts should be repeated, and a few bars at the end of the 2nd part are missing. "The Kips Bay Ceili Band" in the USA recorded it not long after that, and more recently Sharon Shannon and other Irish musicians have picked up on it. I played it with Ross Ainslie in a session at Dougie MacLean's "Perthshire Amber" festival last November, and also at 3 concerts, so it would seem to be fairly well-accepted in Scotland these days.

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