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Author:  richard1941 [ Thu Jul 11, 2013 1:07 am ]
Post subject:  Mariachi Polka ???

Mariachi Polka is not at all totally crazy. Here in southern California we are much closer to Mexico than you, and in fact a lot of us are actual Mexicans! And half of the radio and TV stations are Mexicans. Come here and listen, and you will hear a lot of polka on those stations, but it is traditional European polka, not the trumpet/violin mariachi style.

Author:  MTGuru [ Thu Jul 11, 2013 10:13 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Mariachi Polka ???

Both this forum and Flanges & Hummus attract some "interesting" drive-bys, eh?

richard1941 wrote:
Here in southern California we are much closer to Mexico than you

I kinda doubt that. Like Sarah Palin, I can see Mexico from my front door! Oh wait, wrong country ...

richard1941 wrote:
and in fact a lot of us are actual Mexicans!

In fact, a lot of me is actual Mexican!

richard1941 wrote:
And half of the radio and TV stations are Mexicans.

And, amazingly, half of all Mexicans are radio and TV stations!

richard1941 wrote:
Come here and listen

Yes, listening to Mexican radio is definitely the main reason to visit Southern California. :really:

richard1941 wrote:
and you will hear a lot of polka on those stations, but it is traditional European polka, not the trumpet/violin mariachi style.

Not exactly. Polka is not a significant part of Mariachi. You do hear some Mariachi here, but norteño styles are much more common and popular. And the two broad norteño styles are: Tex-Mex aka Ranchero, and Banda Music. Ranchero is accordion-based and influenced by the German populations in central and south Texas. Banda Sinaloense is brasswind-based and an outgrowth of French-style military bands during the era of Maximillian. Extended listening to either style will make your brain melt and ooze out of your ears.

Author:  stanton135 [ Thu Jul 11, 2013 1:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Mariachi Polka ???

MTGuru wrote:
Extended listening to either style will make your brain melt and ooze out of your ears.


I remember that I used to listen to the local Mexican radio station on my commute to class during my undergrad. It was excellent listening practice for my Spanish.

I found that, as my comprehension of what they were singing about increased, the effect MTGuru is referring to increased in equal measure. :wink:

Author:  MTGuru [ Fri Jul 12, 2013 1:22 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Mariachi Polka ???

I actually like banda music - in measured doses. It's both fascinating and completely bizarre. Take a bunch of military surplus brasswinds and drums. Learn to play everything at the extreme-distortion top of your lungs, to be heard in a large outdoor plaza. Then adapt ranchero-style songs and corridos to sound like cross between Mexican folk, J.P. Sousa and Lawrence Welk on acid. Voilà - banda!

stanton135 wrote:
I found that, as my comprehension of what they were singing about increased, the effect MTGuru is referring to increased in equal measure. :wink:

Yes, it sounds very old-fashioned and rustic, until you realize they're sometimes singing about Facebook and mobile phones, and sex and drugs and violence ...

Author:  Dale [ Fri Jul 12, 2013 3:00 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Mariachi Polka ???

richard1941 wrote:
Mariachi Polka is not at all totally crazy. Here in southern California we are much closer to Mexico than you, and in fact a lot of us are actual Mexicans! And half of the radio and TV stations are Mexicans. Come here and listen, and you will hear a lot of polka on those stations, but it is traditional European polka, not the trumpet/violin mariachi style.


I'm sure you're right. But, remember, the musical genre hybrid referenced is "Mariachi-Polka Waltz-Punk." Get much of that your way? :D

Author:  leearn2turn [ Mon Mar 26, 2018 9:48 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Mariachi Polka ???

[Thread revival. - Mod]

My understanding is there is a quite a German influence on Mexican music and much of it does indeed have a polka sound. Google "música norteña".

-l2t

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