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Mariachi Polka ???

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 1:07 am
by richard1941
Mariachi Polka is not at all totally crazy. Here in southern California we are much closer to Mexico than you, and in fact a lot of us are actual Mexicans! And half of the radio and TV stations are Mexicans. Come here and listen, and you will hear a lot of polka on those stations, but it is traditional European polka, not the trumpet/violin mariachi style.

Re: Mariachi Polka ???

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 10:13 am
by MTGuru
Both this forum and Flanges & Hummus attract some "interesting" drive-bys, eh?
richard1941 wrote:Here in southern California we are much closer to Mexico than you
I kinda doubt that. Like Sarah Palin, I can see Mexico from my front door! Oh wait, wrong country ...
richard1941 wrote:and in fact a lot of us are actual Mexicans!
In fact, a lot of me is actual Mexican!
richard1941 wrote:And half of the radio and TV stations are Mexicans.
And, amazingly, half of all Mexicans are radio and TV stations!
richard1941 wrote:Come here and listen
Yes, listening to Mexican radio is definitely the main reason to visit Southern California. :really:
richard1941 wrote:and you will hear a lot of polka on those stations, but it is traditional European polka, not the trumpet/violin mariachi style.
Not exactly. Polka is not a significant part of Mariachi. You do hear some Mariachi here, but norteño styles are much more common and popular. And the two broad norteño styles are: Tex-Mex aka Ranchero, and Banda Music. Ranchero is accordion-based and influenced by the German populations in central and south Texas. Banda Sinaloense is brasswind-based and an outgrowth of French-style military bands during the era of Maximillian. Extended listening to either style will make your brain melt and ooze out of your ears.

Re: Mariachi Polka ???

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 1:13 pm
by stanton135
MTGuru wrote:Extended listening to either style will make your brain melt and ooze out of your ears.
I remember that I used to listen to the local Mexican radio station on my commute to class during my undergrad. It was excellent listening practice for my Spanish.

I found that, as my comprehension of what they were singing about increased, the effect MTGuru is referring to increased in equal measure. :wink:

Re: Mariachi Polka ???

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 1:22 am
by MTGuru
I actually like banda music - in measured doses. It's both fascinating and completely bizarre. Take a bunch of military surplus brasswinds and drums. Learn to play everything at the extreme-distortion top of your lungs, to be heard in a large outdoor plaza. Then adapt ranchero-style songs and corridos to sound like cross between Mexican folk, J.P. Sousa and Lawrence Welk on acid. Voilà - banda!
stanton135 wrote:I found that, as my comprehension of what they were singing about increased, the effect MTGuru is referring to increased in equal measure. :wink:
Yes, it sounds very old-fashioned and rustic, until you realize they're sometimes singing about Facebook and mobile phones, and sex and drugs and violence ...

Re: Mariachi Polka ???

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 3:00 am
by Dale
richard1941 wrote:Mariachi Polka is not at all totally crazy. Here in southern California we are much closer to Mexico than you, and in fact a lot of us are actual Mexicans! And half of the radio and TV stations are Mexicans. Come here and listen, and you will hear a lot of polka on those stations, but it is traditional European polka, not the trumpet/violin mariachi style.
I'm sure you're right. But, remember, the musical genre hybrid referenced is "Mariachi-Polka Waltz-Punk." Get much of that your way? :D

Re: Mariachi Polka ???

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2018 9:48 am
by learn2turn
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My understanding is there is a quite a German influence on Mexican music and much of it does indeed have a polka sound. Google "música norteña".

-l2t

Re: Mariachi Polka ???

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2019 10:43 am
by highland-piper
leearn2turn wrote:[Thread revival. - Mod]

My understanding is there is a quite a German influence on Mexican music and much of it does indeed have a polka sound. Google "música norteña".

-l2t
German and Czech via Texas:

https://www.npr.org/2015/03/11/39214107 ... d-to-polka

Re: Mariachi Polka ???

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 11:45 am
by Benzy
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MTGuru wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2013 1:22 am I actually like banda music - in measured doses. It's both fascinating and completely bizarre. Take a bunch of military surplus brasswinds and drums. Learn to play everything at the extreme-distortion top of your lungs, to be heard in a large outdoor plaza. Then adapt ranchero-style songs and corridos to sound like cross between Mexican folk, J.P. Sousa and Lawrence Welk on acid. Voilà - banda!
stanton135 wrote:I found that, as my comprehension of what they were singing about increased, the effect MTGuru is referring to increased in equal measure. :wink:
Yes, it sounds very old-fashioned and rustic, until you realize they're sometimes singing about Facebook and mobile phones, and sex and drugs and violence ...
Totally agree with you, would you please share with me bands which play this style ?
Thank you :)