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Mariachi Polka ???

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 1:07 am
by richard1941
Mariachi Polka is not at all totally crazy. Here in southern California we are much closer to Mexico than you, and in fact a lot of us are actual Mexicans! And half of the radio and TV stations are Mexicans. Come here and listen, and you will hear a lot of polka on those stations, but it is traditional European polka, not the trumpet/violin mariachi style.

Re: Mariachi Polka ???

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 10:13 am
by MTGuru
Both this forum and Flanges & Hummus attract some "interesting" drive-bys, eh?

richard1941 wrote:Here in southern California we are much closer to Mexico than you

I kinda doubt that. Like Sarah Palin, I can see Mexico from my front door! Oh wait, wrong country ...

richard1941 wrote:and in fact a lot of us are actual Mexicans!

In fact, a lot of me is actual Mexican!

richard1941 wrote:And half of the radio and TV stations are Mexicans.

And, amazingly, half of all Mexicans are radio and TV stations!

richard1941 wrote:Come here and listen

Yes, listening to Mexican radio is definitely the main reason to visit Southern California. :really:

richard1941 wrote:and you will hear a lot of polka on those stations, but it is traditional European polka, not the trumpet/violin mariachi style.

Not exactly. Polka is not a significant part of Mariachi. You do hear some Mariachi here, but norteño styles are much more common and popular. And the two broad norteño styles are: Tex-Mex aka Ranchero, and Banda Music. Ranchero is accordion-based and influenced by the German populations in central and south Texas. Banda Sinaloense is brasswind-based and an outgrowth of French-style military bands during the era of Maximillian. Extended listening to either style will make your brain melt and ooze out of your ears.

Re: Mariachi Polka ???

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 1:13 pm
by stanton135
MTGuru wrote:Extended listening to either style will make your brain melt and ooze out of your ears.


I remember that I used to listen to the local Mexican radio station on my commute to class during my undergrad. It was excellent listening practice for my Spanish.

I found that, as my comprehension of what they were singing about increased, the effect MTGuru is referring to increased in equal measure. :wink:

Re: Mariachi Polka ???

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 1:22 am
by MTGuru
I actually like banda music - in measured doses. It's both fascinating and completely bizarre. Take a bunch of military surplus brasswinds and drums. Learn to play everything at the extreme-distortion top of your lungs, to be heard in a large outdoor plaza. Then adapt ranchero-style songs and corridos to sound like cross between Mexican folk, J.P. Sousa and Lawrence Welk on acid. Voilà - banda!

stanton135 wrote:I found that, as my comprehension of what they were singing about increased, the effect MTGuru is referring to increased in equal measure. :wink:

Yes, it sounds very old-fashioned and rustic, until you realize they're sometimes singing about Facebook and mobile phones, and sex and drugs and violence ...

Re: Mariachi Polka ???

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 3:00 am
by Dale
richard1941 wrote:Mariachi Polka is not at all totally crazy. Here in southern California we are much closer to Mexico than you, and in fact a lot of us are actual Mexicans! And half of the radio and TV stations are Mexicans. Come here and listen, and you will hear a lot of polka on those stations, but it is traditional European polka, not the trumpet/violin mariachi style.


I'm sure you're right. But, remember, the musical genre hybrid referenced is "Mariachi-Polka Waltz-Punk." Get much of that your way? :D

Re: Mariachi Polka ???

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2018 9:48 am
by leearn2turn
[Thread revival. - Mod]

My understanding is there is a quite a German influence on Mexican music and much of it does indeed have a polka sound. Google "música norteña".

-l2t

Re: Mariachi Polka ???

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2019 10:43 am
by highland-piper
leearn2turn wrote:[Thread revival. - Mod]

My understanding is there is a quite a German influence on Mexican music and much of it does indeed have a polka sound. Google "música norteña".

-l2t
German and Czech via Texas:

https://www.npr.org/2015/03/11/39214107 ... d-to-polka