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In the newest forum name, Dale asked, "Could there be...Musical Fission?" Well, of course there could. In fact, it happens every time a band splits up.

jsluder wrote:In the newest forum name, Dale asked, "Could there be...Musical Fission?" Well, of course there could. In fact, it happens every time a band splits up.

Solo careers, right!?
Paul McCartney is the product of musical fission.

Tyler Morris wrote:

jsluder wrote:In the newest forum name, Dale asked, "Could there be...Musical Fission?" Well, of course there could. In fact, it happens every time a band splits up.

Solo careers, right!?
Paul McCartney is the product of musical fission.

Exactly. Of course, not all musical fission creates energy. Look at Peter Cetera's solo career, for instance.

jsluder wrote:

Tyler Morris wrote:

jsluder wrote:In the newest forum name, Dale asked, "Could there be...Musical Fission?" Well, of course there could. In fact, it happens every time a band splits up.

Solo careers, right!?
Paul McCartney is the product of musical fission.

Exactly. Of course, not all musical fission creates energy. Look at Peter Cetera's solo career, for instance.

Ahhh, yes, we could refer to that as dead fission.
Another prime example...Steve Perry!!!!
A'course it took his fission for the new Journey to create their fusion, and they have energy, boy howdy!

Well, okay, let's get serious here.

I. Yes, there is such a thing as musical fission and it happened in the early 1900's. I think the idea here is that things fell apart and then these dudes started something new. I don't really know what the music is that fell apart. Maybe it couldn't be written down because of the angst caused by the fission.
http://www.ce-review.org/00/16/bagust16.html
Beyond Fission
Schoenberg, Kandinsky, the Blaue Reiter and the Russian avant garde
Sue Bagust

The first two decades of the last century were a period of frantic creativity and turmoil. The destruction of previous norms and expectations in all areas of life had a huge impact on all the arts in all countries. In 1913, Wassily Kandinsky wrote that "the disintegration of the atom was to me like the disintegration of the whole world." Like many other artists he expressed this new perception of things with a new aesthetic, one that dissolved the previous sense of a solid material reality - with the help of music, the least solid of all the arts.

Sounds into images

An important ingredient of the new movement was the idea that painting could become like music; an idea that led to the composer Arnold Schoenberg (who was himself an innovatory painter) becoming central to the consolidation of Kandinsky's and Marc's Blaue Reiter aesthetic. After a concert of Schoenberg's music in January 1911, Kandinsky established contact with the composer, and the two wrote and collaborated intensively for the next few years.

II. Yes, there is such a thing as musical fission and it is highly weird. This is a discussion from the CEC Conference of the International Electroacoustic Community. I have bolded what appear to be significant terms.
http://alcor.concordia.ca/~kaustin/cecc ... /1423.html

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Subject: Re: fission
From: miriam clinton (iriXx) (iriXx@iriXx.org)
Date: Wed Oct 27 2004 - 04:47:14 EDT


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flogging, possibly - its quite painful to sing.... (and listen to)
hehe

mC~


macCormac wrote:
>does this have anything to do with 'flocking' ?
>
>mCm
>

>Rick Nance wrote:
>>>I'm used to calling it stream segregation I guess. That might be the
>>best search phrase.
>>
>>"stream segregation" music fission in google comes up with some links.
>>but I think I like your selection better. The Bach solo flute peices are
>>pretty good demonstrations.
>>
>>Try Tellemann though. Or maybe Fred Frith.
>>
>>can a solo instrument hocket?
>>
>>r
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>>Prof Malone wrote:
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>> i was actually thinking of the psychoacoustic phenomenon of melodic
>>>streaming by frequency proximity and tempo
>>>the term was coined by Van Noorden
>>>
>>>i have been using the bach cello suites
>>>but i am looking for more varied examples


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Cynth...admit it.
You just made all that up, diddn' ya!!??



just kiddin'