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Author:  MooglePower [ Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Best wood for a mandolin for ITM that's also warm

I'm having a mandolin custom built and I was wondering what you all think is the best wood for a mandolin to play ITM. I'm looking for something that's rather warm as well. I've heard that both cedar and redwood would work well, but I was wondering what everyone here thought. Thank you!

Author:  Thomaston [ Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Best wood for a mandolin for ITM that's also warm

Most mandolin use the maple/spruce combo. I've been seeing cedar used more and more in instruments for it's warmth. Redwood is a good choice, too. Back/side wood can make a difference, too. Choosing mahogany or walnut over maple will give a warmer tone.

I'm actually helping build my own custom mandolin right now, we're using bearclaw spruce for the top and cocobolo back and sides. Neck is maple. It's hopefully going to be a magnificent instrument.
Here's the photos. Still a lot of work left.
https://www.facebook.com/casey.thomasto ... e=3&__nodl

Author:  s1m0n [ Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Best wood for a mandolin for ITM that's also warm

Even Stefan Sobell eventually gave up using on WRC for mando/cittern tops. The sound was good, but the wood was hard to carve and prone to splitting over time. He eventually got fed up with the warranty claims and switched to red or sitka spruce. The back and sides have a lot less influence on sound. Any of maple, rosewood, or mahogany will do fine, IMO.

Author:  MooglePower [ Wed Aug 30, 2017 12:57 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Best wood for a mandolin for ITM that's also warm

s1m0n wrote:
Even Stefan Sobell eventually gave up using on WRC for mando/cittern tops.


Sorry, what's WRC?

Author:  kkrell [ Wed Aug 30, 2017 1:08 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Best wood for a mandolin for ITM that's also warm

MooglePower wrote:
s1m0n wrote:
Even Stefan Sobell eventually gave up using on WRC for mando/cittern tops.


Sorry, what's WRC?

Western Red cedar
http://www.wood-database.com/western-red-cedar/

Sitka Spruce would probably be a good choice. However, as you are going custom-built, I'd consider any recommendations by your luthier-of-choice to achieve your requirements based on their experience and wood locker.

Author:  s1m0n [ Wed Aug 30, 2017 2:12 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Best wood for a mandolin for ITM that's also warm

MooglePower wrote:
s1m0n wrote:
Even Stefan Sobell eventually gave up using on WRC for mando/cittern tops.


Sorry, what's WRC?


Western red cedar. Redwood wasn't a lot different, IIRC.

Author:  s1m0n [ Wed Aug 30, 2017 2:17 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Best wood for a mandolin for ITM that's also warm

kkrell wrote:
However, as you are going custom-built, I'd consider any recommendations by your luthier-of-choice to achieve your requirements based on their experience and wood locker.


Yes. More important than any quality of the wood is your luthier's understanding of how to get the best from that species. Any quality tonewood can sound like whatever you want, if your luthier has the skill and knows what you're after. Asking a good luthier to take a stab at an unfamiliar wood because of what some guy said about it on the internets is a crapshoot. The best you're likely to achieve is an instrument that's only a little worse than his usual fare.

Author:  Mike Floorstand [ Wed Aug 30, 2017 2:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Best wood for a mandolin for ITM that's also warm

I've played a few spruce-topped mandolins but only a couple of cedar-topped, but based on that unscientific sample I do prefer cedar. Here's a video of me playing spruce followed by cedar a few years ago:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTCPlDWFgXQ

To be fair the spruce topped was a very new instrument (which for spruce often translates to a brasher sound) whereas the cedar a year or so old so a bit more broken in, but I think the sound difference is still valid.

I think the main drawback of cedar is it's more easily marked, easy to rest a plectrum or fingernail a bit too firmly and end up with a small ding. If you like your instruments to remain pristine then spruce may be a better bet.

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