Survey: Pocket Knives

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Choose your weapon:

Swiss Army knife
6
23%
Traditional pocket knife
6
23%
Modern pocket knife
4
15%
Opinel
1
4%
Leatherman/Multitool
5
19%
Fixed blade
1
4%
Other
3
12%
Knife? You want me to be arrested?
0
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Total votes: 26

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accordionstu wrote:Unfortunately the laws in the UK are such that carrying a knife is illegal now. You may carry a knife with a 3 inch blade but you need to have a very good reason, such as on a fishing trip.
How big a blade can you carry without a very good reason?

In 2002 we got called aside at an airport and held up for half an hour or so because we had a pair of baby scissors in a baby emergency kit. You know, the scissors with blades about an inch long and ROUNDED ENDS? And, of course, we were traveling with a baby. Next time I flew, without a baby, there was a sign at the security line saying that baby scissors were now allowed.
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MTGuru wrote:I know high-carbon steel can generally take a sharper edge, ...
I wonder how true this is today. Back in the 80's hands down, but then back them people called Japanese steel for tools crap and the only knives coming from there seemed to be the stainless Ginsu knives. In the past few decades that view has changed.

"Stainless" steel these days can now hold a higher carbon content and the alloys tested more thoroughly. It can be aesthetically pleasing to put a mustard patina on a carbon steel knife, or just use it as is, and I have used both and in my opinion, but a crap blade is a crap blade and the good ones are so close in ability that I find the performance differences negligible regardless of material.
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I.D.10-t wrote:It can be aesthetically pleasing to put a mustard patina on a carbon steel knife...
Interesting - first I'd ever heard of the practice. Looks like the sort of thing I'd do:

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Looks like you can have some fun with forced patinas.
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I.D.10-t wrote:
MTGuru wrote:I know high-carbon steel can generally take a sharper edge, ...
I wonder how true this is today. ... I find the performance differences negligible regardless of material.
That's good to know. The Sandvik stainless of my Opinel does seem plenty sharp, and it holds both its edge and its shine well. My old Camillus carbon steel knife, OTOH, looks like it has the plague because I never cared for it properly in my callow youth.
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My experience with stainless knives dates back to the days when many were being made from the butter knife soft 440A stainless steel. Of course there are many different varieties of stainless, more each day, not to mention the semi-stainless steels now gaining acceptance. Not sure what is being used by Opinel, though I hear the Sandvik is 12C27.

For a good article on different steel types please check this link out: http://zknives.com/knives/articles/knifesteelfaq.shtml. Note that per this article the 12C27 is acceptable steel for knives if well heat treated, which I'm sure Opinel does.

Please note that at least the last one of the lovely "patinas" that Nano pictured is most likely pattern welded (Damascus) steel. The others may be patterned using a resist, but I wouldn't be surprised if those also were some kind of pattern weld (chainsaw blade perhaps).
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Latticino wrote:Please note that at least the last one of the lovely "patinas" that Nano pictured is most likely pattern welded (Damascus) steel. The others may be patterned using a resist, but I wouldn't be surprised if those also were some kind of pattern weld (chainsaw blade perhaps).
The last certainly looks pattern welded, doesn't it. I believe it was not pattern welded, however, but stands as an extreme example of what can be done when forcing patinas. Be that as it may, the previous two are definitely patina-treated; the middle one is an Opinel, I believe; if it's not, here's a webpage with forced-patina Opinels, so we at least have that cleared away. Apparently folks that pursue the practice of forced patina use all sorts of acid-based treatments: yellow mustard, brown mustard, mayonnaise, steak sauce, tomato ketchup and so on, and you get different intensities and effects from each; people will use combinations of these to achieve multihued effects. Sticking blades in whole lemons or vinegar baths is done for a plainer, unfigured patina. The condiments are used mainly because you can make interesting patterns without a resist. If you look up forced patinas, you can find all sorts of before-and-after pics, and up to now I have only seen plain steel being treated so.

If I had a pattern welded blade and wanted a patina on it for some reason (I can't imagine wanting to gild that lily, though, because to me that would be vandalism; isn't it striking enough already?), I would give it the bath and save my mustard for lunch.
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I.D.10-t wrote:I wonder how true this is today.
A bit late, but this is America's Test Kitchen's test and review of several high carbon knives against their favorite Victorinox blade.
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