"..straddles the line between heartfelt and primeval."

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"..straddles the line between heartfelt and primeval."

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BD is Bob Dylan, who's being interviewed about some of the songwriters he resepcts. I was struck by his perfect capsule definition of Warren Zevon:
BF: Who are some of your favorite songwriters?

BD: Buffett I guess. Lightfoot. Warren Zevon. Randy. John Prine. Guy Clark. Those kinds of writers.

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BF: Did you know Zevon?

BD: Not very well.

BF: What did you like about him?

BD: "Lawyers, Guns and Money." "Boom Boom Mancini." Down hard stuff. "Join me in L.A." sort of straddles the line between heartfelt and primeval. His musical patterns are all over the place, probably because he's classically trained. There might be three separate songs within a Zevon song, but they're all effortlessly connected. Zevon was a musician's musician, a tortured one. "Desperado Under the Eaves." It's all in there.
Zevon died of cancer a few years ago, but somewhere some marketing guy has gotta be clipping this for the cover of the next greatest hits package.
And now there was no doubt that the trees were really moving - moving in and out through one another as if in a complicated country dance. ('And I suppose,' thought Lucy, 'when trees dance, it must be a very, very country dance indeed.')

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There's a line between heartfelt and primeval? I think mine are pretty much smudged.
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nuther straddler, are ya!
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Bob Dylan.. BOB DYLAN.....BOB DYLAN ?!?!?! :swear: :x

is the worst sham perpetrated on American culture since its inception.
I HAVE NOT understood a single word he's ever said, ( so thx for transcribing that interwiew s1m0n,) and dont even get me started about how he sounds like a constipated, stoned, syphillittic stumble-bum from Brooklyn ( sorry Brooklyn) without the benefit of a 4th grade education....
if THERE EVER WAS a 20th c media-type that DID NOT deserve ONE RED CENT of fortune, ONE NANOSECOND of fame, and ONE MILLIKILO of vinyl...


it's bob dylan.
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Dylan respects Buffett? As in Jimmy "blew out my flip flops"?

You (or he) has GOTTA be kidding.

I never cared for Dylan as a singer, but he was a good poet, IMHO.

Who would be the "Randy" he mentioned?
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Heeeere we go again.

I listen to Dylan's Theme Time Radio Hour
on XM Satellite Radio. I find his speaking
voice very smooth and groovy and relaxing.
He has tells stories about the artists and
has surprising insights into the music he
plays. I haven't drunk the cool-aid, and
didn't grow up on his music or anything,
but I don't think he deserves the kind of
derision I've seen recently.

If you're interested, you can download
all the shows in this archive:
http://croz.fm/pages/ttrh.html
He plays an incredible variety of music,
from Jazz to Gospel to Rock to Bluegrass.
It's the ultimate Deep Cuts show.
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ketida wrote:Dylan respects Buffett? As in Jimmy "blew out my flip flops"?
No, he obviously meant the great
Warren Buffet who wrote such songs
as "The Short-Sell Rag" and "50 Ways
to Leave Your Hedge Fund".
ketida wrote:Who would be the "Randy" he mentioned?
Good question. Randy Newman?
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ketida wrote: Who would be the "Randy" he mentioned?
Newman.
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be my guess....

could be Travis :lol:
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CHasR wrote: if THERE EVER WAS a 20th c media-type that DID NOT deserve ONE RED CENT of fortune, ONE NANOSECOND of fame, and ONE MILLIKILO of vinyl...
I bet you think Shakespeare is full of clichés, too.
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s1m0n wrote:
CHasR wrote: if THERE EVER WAS a 20th c media-type that DID NOT deserve ONE RED CENT of fortune, ONE NANOSECOND of fame, and ONE MILLIKILO of vinyl...
I bet you think Shakespeare is full of clichés, too.
Yeah, and his history was grossly innaccurate. And he couldn't spel. BTW, did you know the name "shakespeare" means "jerkoff"? :P
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One thing I heard a while ago, but have not been able to find, is that Bob Dylan's unique singing style, like his name, was developed and crafted. He could sing differently, but didn't.

Can anyone confirm/deny this?
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I.D.10-t wrote: He could sing differently, but didn't.

Can anyone confirm/deny this?
:D then he was even more of a faker than I indicated above. :P
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That would be like saying that e e cummings was a faker because he knew the rules and crafted a style that broke convention. (ITS CALLED A SHIFT KEY!)

Dylan wasn't afraid to experiment and many were put off when he played the electric guitar, he seemed to do things intentionally. Don't get me wrong, I can't stand his singing and like remakes by other artists better than the originals, but that's more a reflection of my tastes than his ability.
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Innocent Bystander wrote:BTW, did you know the name "shakespeare" means "jerkoff"? :P
I've heard that 3 shanks is a wank.
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