'Saddest case ever'

anticDevices · Post by **anticDevices** » Tue Jul 27, 2004 9:48 am

This... just gets worse the further in you go. The funny thing (!) is the casual style it's written in.

Kenner man admits leaving son, 9

It made me ask, "Where do I live?" Not as a slam against LA, since this feckless TWIT just seems to have been caught here. Could have happened anywhere.

Anyway. I dunno. This just derailed me today.

- P

irishduffy · Post by **irishduffy** » Tue Jul 27, 2004 9:52 am

That is just wrong, all I can say.

Daryl · Post by **Daryl** » Tue Jul 27, 2004 9:57 am

How would Filch (Harry Potter character) put it...?

"Too bad they did away with the old punishments. God, I miss the screamin'."

MarkB · Post by **MarkB** » Tue Jul 27, 2004 9:58 am

I think that 45 years is enough time to think about what he had done, especially if he is abandon within the system by everybody concerned.

MarkB

Post by **Nanohedron** » Tue Jul 27, 2004 11:08 am

MarkB wrote:I think that 45 years is enough time to think about what he had done, especially if he is abandon within the system by everybody concerned.

MarkB

It's just that something tells me he's not the type to do anything other than grasping, and I don't mean mentally.

TonyHiggins · Post by **TonyHiggins** » Tue Jul 27, 2004 12:20 pm

'Judge not, lest ye be judged.'

The wisdom of those words to me is that we really can't know what another person is capable or incapable of. Obviously, a normal person woudn't behave that way. This guy is certainly off the bell curve for normality. The article implies he's a drug user, has wacked out interpersonal relationships, and it says he couldn't read. Does he come from a background of abuse and neglect? If so, he never learned the skills to be a normal human. (They're not entirely instinctive.)

It was a horrible and tragic event for the boy to be tossed out like that, but it was probably a really lucky break for him, too.

My wife works as a nurse at a private school for 'severely emotionally disturbed' children. Some of the kids live in group homes, others with family members. These kids simply don't know how to get along with other people. They don't know how to give love or to receive it. They act out their personal traumas by inflicting them on others. It's easy to feel anger at them for their behavior. I tried working as a nurse at a facility for these kids once. I lasted a couple of months. I was an emotional wreck in short order and left.

This guy fits the profile to a 'T.' These things go on every day in every city and town. And it moves from generation to generation.
Tony

amar · Post by **amar** » Tue Jul 27, 2004 1:08 pm

that's one of the saddest news articles i've ever read.

anniemcu · Post by **anniemcu** » Tue Jul 27, 2004 3:23 pm

The crime is henious, no question, but the allusion to reasons to suspect similar background for the "father" (you *know* why I'm using quotes)... abandoned and neglected kids often gro up to be abandoning and neglectful "adults" (here too).

Yes, he should pay a big price, and yes, he should get a lot of help... 45 years or so should allow some.

As for the boy, I hope he isn't too damaged to recover... kids who are not wanted from the beginning get set up for a miserble life, and sometimes the best intentions and traditional help don't help at all. At least there' hope.

So very sad.

TonyHiggins · Post by **TonyHiggins** » Tue Jul 27, 2004 3:36 pm

Yes, he should pay a big price, and yes, he should get a lot of help... 45 years or so should allow some.

I don't have an answer and I'm not arguing for a different solution. Frankly, it's my impression that people at this stage missed the boat when it was in and there's no second chance. Prison isn't going to change anything except keeping him off the street. He'll meet a lot more like himself there. It's like punishing a rabid dog for biting someone. It's pointless, but you can't let him run around. It's the world we live in.

My only answer is to try to balance the equation by doing acts of kindness when you can.
Tony

anniemcu · Post by **anniemcu** » Tue Jul 27, 2004 5:19 pm

TonyHiggins wrote:
Yes, he should pay a big price, and yes, he should get a lot of help... 45 years or so should allow some.
I don't have an answer and I'm not arguing for a different solution. Frankly, it's my impression that people at this stage missed the boat when it was in and there's no second chance. Prison isn't going to change anything except keeping him off the street. He'll meet a lot more like himself there. It's like punishing a rabid dog for biting someone. It's pointless, but you can't let him run around. It's the world we live in.

My only answer is to try to balance the equation by doing acts of kindness when you can.
Tony

I totally agree with you. I've experienced the 'rabid dog' thing, in fact, having to put down a favorite, long time family dog because he suddenly tried to take my daughter's throat out (not something she'd brought about by any mistreatment... we were there when it happened... twice!) Did we fully understand what had happened? No. Did we know that he could not be allowed around children, or even adults again? Did we know that 'treatment' wasn't going to help him?... yes... sadly... yes.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Tue Jul 27, 2004 6:10 pm

He needs the farmers big pliers ...ahem then he could not be running about jumping teenage girls.

He wll last about a month inside before he gets a taste of American justice..

dubhlinn · Post by **dubhlinn** » Tue Jul 27, 2004 6:23 pm

Shoot him.
End of problem.

Slan,
D.

OutOfBreath · Post by **OutOfBreath** » Tue Jul 27, 2004 8:15 pm

Nah, shootin's too good fer him. Let him be bubba's girlfriend in the big house for a few decades.

OutOfBreath · Post by **OutOfBreath** » Tue Jul 27, 2004 8:15 pm

Bah! I didn't hit submit twice, I swear!

satyricon234 · Post by **satyricon234** » Wed Jul 28, 2004 5:03 am

amar wrote:that's one of the saddest news articles i've ever read.

Way too sad. I couldn't finish the first paragraph. I don't have kids but I cannot imagine treating your own flesh and blood that way.