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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 2:19 pm 
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I nominate this as an example of what should be described as ´American Sean Nós´. A cri de cœur. https://twitter.com/i/status/1324645845740920833

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Nope. Doesn't work for me. It's great, and I really appreciate it, but it simply isn't anything to do with sean nos.

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It´s a Left-Ponder thing. :D

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benhall.1 wrote:
... it simply isn't anything to do with sean nos.

Think of it as a parallel development.

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Nanohedron wrote:
benhall.1 wrote:
... it simply isn't anything to do with sean nos.

Think of it as a parallel development.

It's OK. I've been put straight. :wink:

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I mean, the thing is, it's no more sean nos than, ooh, I dunno, this, say ...

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Post edited: got it now, Bob!

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Maybe this is a bit closer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehFINQKctq0&list=OLAK5uy_myTW97uYfm_33SKkwo8kkvHGEhDi9BA-8
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Yes, quite possibly. I would hope we could reach substantial agreement. But do see your PMs.

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benhall.1 wrote:
I mean, the thing is, it's no more sean nos than, ooh, I dunno, this, say ...

That is no valid comparison at all.

Sigh. I suppose someone has to belabor the obvious: an seanduine was holding up the ornamented character and rubato of John Legend's a cappella singing as being arguably reminiscent of Sean-nós singing, in that melisma, ornamentation, rubato and going a cappella are signature elements, although not requirements, found in both. Style is beside the point here, as is origin. Of course there's something of a stretch to the comparison; he did have the presence of mind to put "Sean-nós" in quotemarks, after all.

The point being: that if America has its own type of "Sean-nós", as it were, that would be an example of it.

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Thank you, once again, Nano :D I would only add the element of Cri de cœur. :D :D

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Hmmmmm. Duende can also reference a being like Dobby so I´m a little unclear here. . .
Cri de cœur is pretty much straightforward ´a cry from the heart´. . .mo chroí. . .a heartfelt cry, like the Rocks of Bawn.
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Snap!!

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an seanduine wrote:
Hmmmmm. Duende can also reference a being like Dobby so I´m a little unclear here. . .
Cri du couer is pretty much straightforward ´a cry from the heart´. . .mo chroí. . .a heartfelt cry, like the Rocks of Bawn.

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I deleted my post, in case anyone's wondering. I was musing on a possible equivalency between cri de coeur and duende. Duende, as I understand it, is a term especially prominent in flamenco, and in that context it means passion and/or inspiration; in flamenco dancing or singing it's a performative ideal, an "It" factor. I think it would take a Spaniard to judge whether John Legend's performance has duende, but it is certainly expressive.

I don't normally associate emoting with genuine sean-nós singing, though.

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Having been called to account by benhall for my idiot-o-synchratic spelling of cœur, I have endeavo(u)red to correct my ways, but cannot edit all of them :oops:

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