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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2020 2:30 am 
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Andre Rieu is the Thomas Kinkade of music.

I've never come across Thomas Kinkade. Now I've looked, it wouldn't appear to be my thing.

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PB+J wrote:
Andre Rieu is the Thomas Kinkade of music.
Just looked up Kinkade. Obviously, plenty of talent. He has a book "Billion Dollar Painter". I gather he made a fortune.

I had a good friend who was a potter. Gifted artist. Cool forms. But, when it came to survival of the business, she had two rules: bright colors and easily recognized forms. Perhaps there's a parallel.


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PB+J wrote:
Andre Rieu is the Thomas Kinkade of music.
There are people like that in any endeavour. We could have fun naming more of them, although we'd have to stay away from politics and religion. I'm not sure Charles Dickens, F. Scott Fitzgerald, or even William Shakespeare, were aiming much higher than that when they were alive, although each did manage a higher much standard.


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Yes Kinkade made a fortune but filed for bankruptcy, and there were accusations of swindling involving the franchising of his name and signed prints. Major drinking problem, expensive girlfriend, angry wife.

The "problem" with Kinkade is the same IMHO as Andre Reiu: bathetic overstatement. Kinkade's cottages scream COZY!!!! or QUIET COUNTRY LANE!!!!

Also people point out that all his building appear to be on fire, the people in them surely burned to death, which is why there are never any people, and it's often, as in the image linked simultaneously autumn, with red foliage, and spring, with spring flowers, and though the sun is setting the shadows are all directly above as at noon, and in the example I posted who the hell would build a house on that spot and how long would it last? Stare at a Kinkade painting and it quickly gets weird: the dark dark shadows, the impossible landscapes, the furnace like interiors.

Everything is overstated: everything is bathos: romanticism in the Edgar Allen Poe sense: deranged.

Reiu has the same determination to wildly overstate every good thing


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PB+J wrote:
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Sorry to be picky, but it's Rieu.

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PB+J wrote:
... and in the example I posted who the hell would build a house on that spot and how long would it last?

Oh, stop bothering us with practicalities. I'm basking in the glowing dream of it.

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Stare at a Kinkade painting and it quickly gets weird: the dark dark shadows, the impossible landscapes, the furnace like interiors.

Has anybody noticed the thin but consolidated wisps of smoke coming out of both chimneys? That's a physical impossibility. Nice small carbon footprint, though.

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... and in the example I posted who the hell would build a house on that spot and how long would it last?

Oh, stop bothering us with practicalities. I'm basking in the glowing dream of it.

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Stare at a Kinkade painting and it quickly gets weird: the dark dark shadows, the impossible landscapes, the furnace like interiors.

Has anybody noticed the thin but consolidated wisps of smoke coming out of both chimneys? That's a physical impossibility. Nice small carbon footprint, though.


It's sort of how I imagine Mr. Gumby's house.

It's a bit far afield but at the height of Kinkade's fame two Russian artists hired a marketing firm to ask Americans what they wanted in a painting--what they liked and didn't like. They came up with "america's
most wanted painting:"

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They did the same survey for a number of other countries and you can see the results here:

https://awp.diaart.org/km/index.html


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Art, schmart. That's visual gibberish. But at least American deer can walk on water.

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PB+J wrote:
It's sort of how I imagine Mr. Gumby's house.



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Nice hovel you have there.

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Nice hovel you have there.


The friendly notion would take a tune title like 'The Glenside Cottage' to describe the house, a line from Séamus Ennis' translation of 'The Dark Woman of the Glen' is probably more apt:

My house is over there,
with its roof in bad repair..

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I like this whistle in an unexpected place more:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WA2sQdPQU-E

The whistle and pipes are an integral part of Evenmore's sound and appear in every cut over two albums.

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Likewise! :)

(That led me onto a few more groups that I'd never heard of, thanks.)

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I like this whistle in an unexpected place more:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WA2sQdPQU-E

The whistle and pipes are an integral part of Evenmore's sound and appear in every cut over two albums.

Oh God, really??? Perhaps it's my age. I just find that ugly, and a dreadful synthesis of things that simply don't go, accompanied by ... what? ... such a hodge-podge of generally "Celtic" and specifically non-Celtic symbols ... well, the whole thing just makes me feel seasick. Saccharine and unlistenable as I find Rieu's stuff, I think I'd rather have his than this. Ugh!

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I'm happy to see the whistle used in different genres, but metal has never been my thing. Too much constantly ahead of the beat.


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