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Author:  busterbill [ Tue Apr 21, 2020 3:28 pm ]
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With the Covid-19 virus crisis fueling my appetite for information I've been reading the BBC news website more regularly. I find it interesting that the word scheme seems to be used when referring to a well laid plan such as procuring PPE equipment or income loss relief. Here in the US the word scheme still does refer to a plan, but usually a nefarious one. :D

Author:  Nanohedron [ Tue Apr 21, 2020 4:14 pm ]
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Ohhhh ... it took me a while. Since "scheme" wasn't in quotes, what I was reading at first were the words "word scheme" taken together, and I kept saying to myself, So what's the word scheme you're talking about? I can't find it.

It's all right; I'm fine, now. :wink:

Author:  busterbill [ Tue Apr 21, 2020 5:07 pm ]
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Nanohedron wrote:
Ohhhh ... it took me a while. Since "scheme" wasn't in quotes, what I was reading at first were the words "word scheme" taken together, and I kept saying to myself, So what's the word scheme you're talking about? I can't find it.

It's all right; I'm fine, now. :wink:




I did contemplate quotes, but rejected them for simplicity's sake. Cadence is sometimes critical. HaHa

Author:  Nanohedron [ Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:51 pm ]
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busterbill wrote:
I did contemplate quotes, but rejected them for simplicity's sake.

... And the opposite effect was achieved. :poke:

Author:  busterbill [ Tue Apr 21, 2020 7:59 pm ]
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Nanohedron wrote:
busterbill wrote:
I did contemplate quotes, but rejected them for simplicity's sake.

... And the opposite effect was achieved. :poke:



:poke: Often the story of my life... :tomato:

Author:  brianholton [ Tue Apr 21, 2020 11:44 pm ]
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Just to further muddy the water, in Scotland "scheme' usually means a housing scheme. That's to say, (publicly-owned) council housing - "housing estate" in England, "project" for USAians.

Hence the characters in Trainspotting could be called "schemies', i.e. people who live in or grew up in a housing scheme. NB: this is often a derogatory term used by lower-middle class snobs and bigots, unless it's used humorously by folk like me who grew up in a scheme.

Author:  benhall.1 [ Wed Apr 22, 2020 12:08 am ]
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brianholton wrote:
Just to further muddy the water, in Scotland "scheme' usually means a housing scheme. That's to say, (publicly-owned) council housing - "housing estate" in England, "project" for USAians.

"Housing estate", in England, usually doesn't mean an estate of council houses. Most housing estates are of private houses. Actually, where I grew up, in South Wales, the term "housing estate" would always have meant an estate of private houses, often reasonably upmarket. Estates of council houses were distinguished by the use of the term "council estate".

I hadn't come across that use of "scheme" - the Scottish use - before. I've looked it up now. Interesting.

Author:  brianholton [ Wed Apr 22, 2020 8:14 am ]
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I stand corrected. Thank you.
You know, I can remember the days - up to the early-mid '70s - when professional people like doctors, teachers, lawyers etc., lived in council houses. A scheme was for all classes, not just the poor. [political stuff deleted - Mod]

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