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Re: Can't read it wrong

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 1:55 am
by benhall.1
As a complete aside ...

It has always been a puzzle to me how so many people - especially, it seems, on the left side of the Atlantic - assume that The Lord of the Rings is somehow Celtic, or related to Celtic myth. Tolkien was positively anti-Celtic. He expressed a "certain distaste" for Celtic myth because of its "unreason". Look up Wikipedia, and you'll find that there are some Celtic influences, particularly with the elves, but a lot of it is Germanic or Norse in origin. Similarly, it really grates when people confuse runes with Celtic stuff. Just sayin' ...

Carry on. :)

Re: Can't read it wrong

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 11:35 am
by Nanohedron
benhall.1 wrote:Look up Wikipedia...
Now why would we do that? Our dreams and fantasies are at stake. :twisted:

Re: Can't read it wrong

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 1:02 pm
by Nanohedron
... there’s a glutton of would-be experts flooding YouTube with their two cents ...
... and I'm a glut for punishment.

Re: Can't read it wrong

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 1:13 pm
by benhall.1
Nanohedron wrote:
... there’s a glutton of would-be experts flooding YouTube with their two cents ...
... and I'm a glut for punishment.
Strange typo ... the 's' is nowhere near the 'g' ...

Re: Can't read it wrong

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 1:40 pm
by Nanohedron
benhall.1 wrote:
Nanohedron wrote:
... there’s a glutton of would-be experts flooding YouTube with their two cents ...
... and I'm a glut for punishment.
Strange typo ... the 's' is nowhere near the 'g' ...
I thought so too, but then I remembered that "their" is an acceptable pronoun when we don't know if the glutton is a he or a she. I know, it's weird, but if it's good enough Shakespeare, I grudgingly guess it's good enough for me. Then again, he did write "more better", so ...

What intrigues me is how would-be experts must taste.

Re: Can't read it wrong

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 2:42 pm
by Nanohedron
benhall.1 wrote:
Nanohedron wrote:... and I'm a glut for punishment.
Strange typo ... the 's' is nowhere near the 'g' ...
Now just hold on there a minute!

Re: Can't read it wrong

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 2:45 pm
by benhall.1
Nanohedron wrote:
benhall.1 wrote:
Nanohedron wrote:... and I'm a glut for punishment.
Strange typo ... the 's' is nowhere near the 'g' ...
Now just hold on there a minute!
That's what she said! :D

Re: Can't read it wrong

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 3:07 pm
by Nanohedron
Must be Spring in Britain...

Re: Can't read it wrong

Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2019 4:42 pm
by Nanohedron
Loathe as I am to be a wet blanket ...
I'll bet the grammar police lost no time knocking on the writer's door for this one. "Loathe" (rhyming with "clothe") is a verb: "I loathe being a wet blanket." Instead, the writer should have used the E-less "loath/loth" (rhyming with "both"), which is the adjective. While "loathe" is still common in its proper use, "loath/loth" has become quite dated [Edit: in the States] and may thus be counted among literary pretensions (yes, mea maxima culpa), so it is best doled out sparingly. It's easy to mistake their differences if you haven't been paying attention; I've seen "loath" incorrectly used as a verb, too.

If that weren't bad enough, the article was titled, "Stop Trying to Make [politician] Happen". Ontologists take note.

Re: Can't read it wrong

Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2019 7:41 pm
by chas
I saw this one a few weeks ago on the Washington Post website. I assumed they'd clean it up, but they haven't:

Former Australian foreign minister claims Melania Trump assumed she was minister’s partner during encounter

I was wondering, Did Melania think she was the minister's date? Partner for a dance? No, Mrs. Trump thought the Australian Foreign Minister, a woman, was not the minister, but the minister's partner.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/20 ... fc5a13a91b

Re: Can't read it wrong

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 12:09 pm
by Nanohedron
Drat. I have to subscribe to the WaPo. Must've used up my free passes.

You know, I seem to be seeing a lot more of such ambiguity lately (although it might have been there all along and I've only just started really noticing it) and find myself confronted more and more with the inadequacies of language. I like to tell myself that in conventional matters there's always a way to make yourself 100% clear, and maybe there is, but there was one sentence I recently came across that could have been read either way, and it struck me, because out of context the sentence was completely rudderless and for the life of me, try as I might I couldn't see how to make it better! I wish I could remember it so you could see what I was up against.

Most of the time, though, it's hard for me to give journalists a pass on the basis of supposedly being under the gun; some of the least clear writing I've seen floated in a soup of self-absorbed and chatty glibness, so the old ideal of striving for concision can't be the culprit.

Re: Can't read it wrong

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 1:00 pm
by Nanohedron
Speaking of concision, here's a headline we could savage:
Elite U.S. school MIT cuts ties with Chinese tech firms Huawei, ZTE
Is "Elite U.S. school" really necessary? I would say that "Chinese tech firms" is okay.

Re: Can't read it wrong

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 9:11 pm
by Nanohedron
A 7-year-old Sumerian male tiger ...
Maybe it's a cross between a Sumatran and Siberian tiger. Or maybe it's an Ur-tiger.

Re: Can't read it wrong

Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 12:05 pm
by Tunborough
I saw this headline several times before I realized why it bothereds me.

‘The Handsmaid’s Tale’ coming back to Cambridge.

Same error repeated twice in the body of the story, although the photo caption gets it right.

Re: Can't read it wrong

Posted: Fri May 24, 2019 11:52 am
by Nanohedron
In an article on how the Royal Family Twitter account misspelled Princess Eugenie's name as "Eugene":
However they quickly recognized their blunder, before deleting and reposting the images along wit the correct spelling of "Eugenie."
And with that, the point is rendered moot.