Classify a Gen Bb?

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I'll need to get along to my nearest instrument shop (Scayles in Edinburgh) and try out an A.If that's possible in these Covid times. You said you played an F. I have an Overton low D I bought years ago but never really managed the pipers grip, is it possible to play the low F in standard fingering? Sorry if that;s getting off the gen Bb topic
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Alto A whistles are nice because some D tunes you can play it as a low D if the song range allows it (if the tune doesnt use the lowest 3 notes on your D you can play it on an A an octave lower, different fingerings obviously).

Because A and Bb are only half a step apart a Bb size tube and mouthpiece can work fine for an A body, it will only be a little easier to overblow.
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celticlibero wrote: Sat Sep 18, 2021 10:19 am I'll need to get along to my nearest instrument shop (Scayles in Edinburgh) and try out an A.If that's possible in these Covid times. You said you played an F. I have an Overton low D I bought years ago but never really managed the pipers grip, is it possible to play the low F in standard fingering? Sorry if that;s getting off the gen Bb topic
Playing a low F should be possible without piper's grip, unless you got smallish hands.
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Re: Classify a Gen Bb?

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I'd be more inclined to say that low 'G' is the last size that most people can play without using pipers grip.

I've got average sized male hands & low 'F' is right on the border line for me, but more comfortable with pipers grip.
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fatmac wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 2:24 am I'd be more inclined to say that low 'G' is the last size that most people can play without using pipers grip.

I've got average sized male hands & low 'F' is right on the border line for me, but more comfortable with pipers grip.
Yes, I actually agree with you. I play a low F with offset finger holes, which makes it comfortable for standard grip covering with finger tips.
fatmac wrote: Sat Sep 18, 2021 2:52 am My regular keys are 'A' & low 'G', closely followed by low 'F' - there's just 'something' about these keys.... :D
Indeed, those are mine too, the Goldilocks keys, not too high and not too low, not too large and not too small, just very comfortable! Low F is my favourite though.
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Thanks all for the advice, I've been listening to a lot of tunes on the low f on utube and yes there is something special about that key. I'll look out for a starter one, maybe a Dixon? Will look out for A as well. I haven't played for a while so it's good to be getting back into it.
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The Generation Bb is one whistle of a few that are an excellent choice off the shelf. :thumbsup:
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celticlibero wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 8:19 am Thanks all for the advice, I've been listening to a lot of tunes on the low f on utube and yes there is something special about that key. I'll look out for a starter one, maybe a Dixon? Will look out for A as well. I haven't played for a while so it's good to be getting back into it.
Low F is a wonderful key. Dixon doesnt make a low F anymore. I would consider going for a MK Kelpie if you don't need tunable. I've had a lot of complaints with my cheaper whistles, but I love my MK low D. I expect the F to be equally amazing. You could still really like a cheaper one. But my MK leaves me with no regrets.
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My first low 'F' was a Shearwater, it's a very nice whistle, quite mellow, but then I got the chance of an MK Kelpie, & that is a really great whistle - so you pay your money..... :D
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Post by Prairie4dude »

Interesting discussion. I, too, am thinking of getting a Bb or A, or maybe both! The Goldfinch ones (reviewed as a set on Youtube by Nathaniel Dowell about a year ago) seem like a really good value. I already have a Goldfinch (alto) G and like it a lot. I can sort of get away with the standard grip on that Goldfinch G but I find it more comfortable to use the piper's grip, which I got accustomed to from playing my Goldie F and MK Pro low D (both of which I had for some time before I got the Goldfinch G).
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