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PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 12:02 pm 
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I have a couple of friends with young sons (6&11) and they want them to give tin whistle a go. There's a strong possibility that it won't take but why not give it a shot. I suggested a Clarke Sweetone and I think there's a kit from the Whistle Shop that sells it with a Susato and two DVDs. Seems like a nice starter kit and maybe dad can learn too. Any other advice that I could pass along?


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 12:26 pm 
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I would have suggested the Tony Dixon ABS.

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An "Oak" maybe. I think it is one of the best bangs for the buck. While the Sweetone sounds and play quite nicely, the seam in the back always annoyed me.


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I would suggest a Walton's Mellow D (not their regular bore high D but the wide bore "Mellow D"). It sounds very nice and is easy to play without screeching and squawking. Best thing is you can find them brand new for under $10. Looking back I wished that had been my first whistle to learn on. Don't let the cheap price fool you, it should more than suffice for their learning until they figure out if they want to continue playing the tin whistle or not.


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What you want are reliable good tone in the full range through both octaves. No screeching, just the music! For tone and playability at lost cost, these fit the description. Seems like this is seconding what others have said:
1) Walton's Mellow D ....plays far superior to the regular model in D and is very inexpensive
2) Tony Dixon DX001 plastic.....very good tone, tough plastic, reviews are consistently good
3) Feadog "Pro".... still very inexpensive and a clear cut above their regular D model
4) Oak................ very good tone, low price

What you want to avoid is getting a scratchy, inefficient instrument that doesn't play well, that has notes breaking apart, putting the players off the instrument, when if they had a more legitimate musical instrument, they'd stick with it. Tone, especially in the second octave, when sounding good is something you want to return to, to build some talent and repertoire in. The four I've mentioned I've seen nothing but good reviews of, by talented players demonstrating them. And they don't require any further tool shed alteration work to play normally. And remember that instruments that have good tone and playability can maintain their resale value.


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Excellent responses and a good bit of choice for a fair price.

Sedi, I couldn't agree more about the seam on the back of the Sweetone. I have one that I play on occasion and it seems really easy to play but I had to fill that back seam with puddy so I wouldn't always be thinking about it.

The DX001 seems like a great choice for a kid that is destined to destroy everythng he touches. I've never played one but the reviews are always good.


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I would go for a Tony Dixon Trad D. I would not recommend a susato for new player as 2nd octave requires quite an effort at the beginning.


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Polara Pat wrote:
Excellent responses and a good bit of choice for a fair price.
The DX001 seems like a great choice for a kid that is destined to destroy everythng he touches. I've never played one but the reviews are always good.


I have a DX-005 (tunable ABS) and a Trad. I like that the ABS Dixon whistle doesn't sound "plasticky" (my term) like some of the other ABS whistles I've tried. Its tone is sweet, but not too pure.


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I'm teaching one of my grandsons; I bought him an off-the-shelf (well, over the internet) Generation D and it has been fine. He's making pretty good progress.

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I recommend looking into the Dixon D Trad also. Very nice whistle, to me it just feels a bit more high end than some of the cheaper ones, by not needing tweaks, and the mouth piece is easily tunable (where others you can un glue it and pull it out but then it may be a loose fit, which isnt good). But it costs around double a lot of the cheaper ones recommended above so it depends on what you want.

I also recommend a generation Bb. It will be too big for a 6 year old but the 11 year old might be able to use it as a kids low whistle. And its the only cheap decent Bb that I know of.


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it just feels a bit more high end than some of the cheaper ones, by not needing tweaks, and the mouth piece is easily tunable (where others you can un glue it and pull it out but then it may be a loose fit,


You arre operating under the false assumption the cheaper whistles need tweaks. Which is nonsense. It was a thought that was prevalent here during the earlier days of these forums but which has disappeared mostly since the forum grew up a bit.

Equally, none of my whistles are a loose fit when tuned, not a single one in any key. Which ones of yours are wobbly and loose?

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My Dixon Trad mouthpieces (on brass D, Eb and E) are on the loose side and have been from new!

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All of my Dixon Trads, (D, A, G), are tight; & all my other whistles, but for one nickel Gen Eb.

Maybe yours were from old/tired moulds.

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My Dixon Trad mouthpieces (on brass D, Eb and E) are on the loose side and have been from new!


That was my memory of the D I had. I never took to that whistle and jumped at the chance to let it go when someone on the forum was looking for an early one (I got mine when they were just new to the market, which rules out old moulds).

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Maybe yours were from old/tired moulds.

And maybe not. I just state my experience as differing from Narzog's without speculating why.

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