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PostPosted: Sat Dec 19, 2020 8:22 am 
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Hi everyone,

Does anyone know if any products exist to allow you to play tin whistle in a breeze?
Mine lose their sound in even a slight breeze.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 19, 2020 8:43 am 
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Here's Kevin Crawford demonstrating one product...

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixckTW21e4I

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Turning the head upside down, window facing down, may alleviate problems.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 19, 2020 9:30 am 
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It all depends on how strong the wind is.

And in my experience the problem gets worse the bigger the whistle.

I've told the story of the beach wedding here (standing in the sand with water potentially lapping around your feet) at which the Bride insisted on a particular tune on Low Whistle.

We generally have a good breeze coming in off the Pacific, and I warned the Bride that when it was time for me to play her special tune my whistle might not function. I recommended the uilleann pipes which are pretty much unaffected by wind, or flute on which the player can sort of power through the wind.

But no, she had to have her tune on Low Whistle! The outcome was predictable, with the whistle cutting in and out. Didn't matter which way I turned or which way I had the headjoint turned (I know about the backwards headjoint trick) it was pretty much a disaster.

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Steve Bliven wrote:
Here's Kevin Crawford demonstrating one product...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixckTW21e4I

Classic Crawford :)


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 19, 2020 3:28 pm 
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Steve Bliven wrote:
Here's Kevin Crawford demonstrating one product...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixckTW21e4I

Best wishes.

Steve


Hm. I should try that. It can't look too much weirder than me playing at outdoor church services with my back turned to the congregation in the parking lot...

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Mr.Gumby wrote:
Turning the head upside down, window facing down, may alleviate problems.

I stared at this in confusion for about a minute until I realized you meant turning the whistle's head upside down, not the human's!

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Steve Bliven wrote:
Here's Kevin Crawford demonstrating one product...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixckTW21e4I

It can get like that in St. Paul. They say there's something in the water...

A blast rom the past, seeing familiar faces in the crowd. :)

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Too bad we don't have the equivalent of the win-d-fender for whistles!

https://win-d-fender.com/innovation-in-engineering

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swizzlestick wrote:
Too bad we don't have the equivalent of the win-d-fender for whistles!

https://win-d-fender.com/innovation-in-engineering

How about a rubber funnel flask adapter? Slide the right size over the mouthpiece so the flare shields the windway, and it could work.

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Nanohedron wrote:
Slide the right size over the mouthpiece so the flare shields the windway, and it could work.

If it's close enough to shield, it would probably also flatten the pitch.

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swizzlestick wrote:
Too bad we don't have the equivalent of the win-d-fender for whistles!

https://win-d-fender.com/innovation-in-engineering


Wow. The hyperbole is over the top:

"Computer Aided Design (CAD), Human Centered Design (HCD) and Design for Six Sigma (DFSS) methodologies standardized in the automotive, aerospace, defense and construction industries were fundamental in the Win-D-Fender design. The Win-D-Fender represents thousands of hours of engineering calculations, computer simulations, user trials, and laboratory validation."

I think I could make that out of a used medicine bottle in 15 minutes.

(For whistle it would be simpler, a bottle that fits over the windway area with some small holes drilled in it.)

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Peter Duggan wrote:
Nanohedron wrote:
Slide the right size over the mouthpiece so the flare shields the windway, and it could work.

If it's close enough to shield, it would probably also flatten the pitch.


That is correct. I tried some different wind shields around the fipple window and when they worked the tone went flat.

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Thanks everyone, sounds like nothing exists, possibly due to the laws of physics!

@mr Gumby, thanks I’ve tried that before and it helps a little but I think my whistle (or playing) may be particularly prone to wind cutting it out as still a small breeze makes it unplayable.


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Has anyone tried a covid face shield? My daughter has a couple distributed from her place of employment. Without a mask for stopping the wearer from spreading virus they are worthless, as the breath ricochets out of the shield and shoots out back and down. I have seen them advertised as mask substitutes and used on TV shows so you can see the actor's face. But the science is not there. They are intended to protect the wearer from particulates coming at them. (Hence the name shield, as in non-metaphorical slings and arrows to misquote Hamlet.)

I would think this would include wind. The sound comes out the back and sides, so you may find yourself back to your listeners if you don't use a microphone. But this or something like this might spawn a solution. Hopefully we will all need to find creative ways to recycle our covid gear within the year.


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