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 Post subject: Re: Chip and Fiffle
PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 9:17 pm 
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Nanohedron wrote:
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... establishments serving locally prepared chips and fiffle ...

And I have discovered the fiffle!

A fishwaffle. :wink:


And now I want taiyaki...


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It's their knowledge of the instrument that I would be concerned about with this error. It would be like expecting me to take piano lessons from someone who has a website that labels the keys incorrectly, or violin lessons from someone whose site doesn't know which strings the instrument has.

A valid concern, though I'm pretty sure the whistle tutorials were all done by Kirsten Allstaff, an accomplished whistle/flute player herself (and a cofounder of OAIM), but I'm not so sure how much she's involved with the site at this point. Matthew Curley, her husband, according to the About page, "brought the technical know-how."


That is my assumption as I know the site is well-regarded, but if I didn't know them from Adam? I'd be turned off.

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 Post subject: Re: Chip and Fiffle
PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 9:49 pm 
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I wonder if OAIM has taken note of the email that bigsciota sent to them.


I have yet to receive a reply, and the page is unchanged, so probably not.


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 Post subject: Re: Chip and Fiffle
PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 12:04 pm 
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Yesterday I directed someone here who is looking for a whistle a member has for sale, and had to correct from chip and fiffle, after I noticed my typo.


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Yesterday I directed someone here who is looking for a whistle a member has for sale, and had to correct from chip and fiffle, after I noticed my typo.


It's starting. There's no vaccine. Watch out for Irish music bands playing waffles and poker FAR more than usual.


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 Post subject: Re: Chip and Fiffle
PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:29 pm 
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bigsciota wrote:
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I wonder if OAIM has taken note of the email that bigsciota sent to them.

I have yet to receive a reply, and the page is unchanged, so probably not.

Well, let's just keep mocking, then. We have to help somehow.

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 Post subject: Re: Chip and Fiffle
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I've tried to steer clear of this, honestly I have, but please ... guys and gals ... could I please refer you to this post of Mr G's way, way back in the thread?

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I have known people to refer to this site as 'chafing nipple'. Has anyone considered the possibility the guys at OAIM are just taking the mickey? :moreevil:

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 Post subject: Re: Chip and Fiffle
PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:56 pm 
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I've tried to steer clear of this, honestly I have, but please ... guys and gals ... could I please refer you to this post of Mr G's way, way back in the thread?

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I have known people to refer to this site as 'chafing nipple'. Has anyone considered the possibility the guys at OAIM are just taking the mickey? :moreevil:

Let's say you're right. The answer is that obviously it doesn't work, as-is. It's no deficiency on our part if we don't get it; the deficiency is theirs. Either OAIM needs a clearly-designated humor section to house the page in (if taking the mickey is really what they're doing), or they need to eliminate the page if they don't want to scare off the conscientious, or worse yet, disinform. A humorous intent doesn't matter one whit if it's backfiring: we already see that mickey or no, the credulous are taking the chiff-means-tube thing as gospel. Does OAIM want that laid on their doorstep? "Chip & Fiffle" is the least of my concerns.

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 Post subject: Re: Chip and Fiffle
PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 4:03 pm 
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benhall.1 wrote:
I've tried to steer clear of this, honestly I have, but please ... guys and gals ... could I please refer you to this post of Mr G's way, way back in the thread?
Mr.Gumby wrote:
I have known people to refer to this site as 'chafing nipple'. Has anyone considered the possibility the guys at OAIM are just taking the mickey? :moreevil:
Looking at the two offending items in context, I doubt it. If they are jokes, they are jokes that only informed readers would understand; novices would only be led astray. It is a very long page, and I see nothing else on the page not intended for novices, nothing intended as an in-joke for informed readers. If it's intended as a joke, it's a bad one.

(Cross-post with Nano.)


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It's all back-to-front anyway; in terms of sound production, the fipple comes before the chiff! :devil:

But, yes, I agree with Nano and Tunborough; it's not obviously a joke, but it's a bad own goal if it's meant to be one.

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 Post subject: Re: Chip and Fiffle
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Nanohedron wrote:
the credulous are taking the chiff-means-tube thing as gospel. Does OAIM want that laid on their doorstep? "Chip & Fiffle" is the least of my concerns.


Well, I didn't look closely enough and thought you said "chiff-means-lube" and that made that sentence waaaaay more interesting (and kinda scary)...!


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It's all back-to-front anyway; in terms of sound production, the fipple comes before the chiff! :devil:


BUT what comes first, the chip or the fiffle??

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 Post subject: Re: Chip and Fiffle
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Katharine wrote:
and that made that sentence waaaaay more interesting (and kinda scary)...!

Not that I want to push this ... but that sounds kinda scratchy ... :o

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 Post subject: Re: Chip and Fiffle
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Peter Duggan wrote:
It's all back-to-front anyway; in terms of sound production, the fipple comes before the chiff! :devil:

But, yes, I agree with Nano and Tunborough; it's not obviously a joke, but it's a bad own goal if it's meant to be one.


I just want to know whether whistle fiffle is the same as the original pipe organ fiffle.


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 Post subject: Re: Chip and Fiffle
PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 9:53 am 
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benhall.1 wrote:
I've tried to steer clear of this, honestly I have, but please ... guys and gals ... could I please refer you to this post of Mr G's way, way back in the thread?

Mr.Gumby wrote:
I have known people to refer to this site as 'chafing nipple'. Has anyone considered the possibility the guys at OAIM are just taking the mickey? :moreevil:


Disregarding the Chip and fiffle bit, the rest of the page is poorly written, and the "fipple" and "chiff" designation for the head and body is extremely misleading to beginners even if it is a joke. It's just a poorly done page, and not a very good advertisement for their services.


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 Post subject: Re: Chip and Fiffle
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I'm not a charter member, nor long term member for that matter. Look over to the left, that's me. I'm just a penurious tone deaf beginner (with some experience now) whistler trying to pick up a tune. I do know that Chiff & Fipple was (still is) the first place I turned to for whistle help. Early on I spent hours and hours reading the old passages from the original website. I mean hours! Hungry for whistle knowledge and how to play and play well. Yes, I belong to the other current internet/social media whistle forums for a rare commenting opportunity. Yet, I rely on Chiff & Fipple for the "searchable" archive for whistle information as the best source. FB and other social medias lack the searchability factor at their loss.

I do understand the power of the image so maybe a return to the original image may spark a sincere membership and participation. By now I know who I like to follow for information and filter the remainder of information as needed. For me the fight to learn to play whistle came from a don't give up image here at C&F. I don't know who owns the image but it is powerful:

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And I have not given up the fight to learn the whistle. Proud to be here... thank you all! :)


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 Post subject: Re: Chip and Fiffle
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ytliek wrote:
I'm not a charter member, nor long term member for that matter.

Its nice that the board does not assign its membership inane titles like "rank noob" and "whistle god" (such titles oftentimes have no bearing on an individual's skill or knowledge level, rendering them all the more asinine and pointless).

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I'm just a penurious tone deaf beginner (with some experience now) whistler trying to pick up a tune.

Another great thing about this board: come to learn about things musical, stay to expand your vocabulary!


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