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PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2020 9:34 pm 
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Hi; I'm thinking of getting A Howard Classic Low D Whistle – B Stock. I emailed info@howardmusic.co.uk
but never got a response.
Has anyone bought one recently and could maybe answer my questions?
1. I know it says "NEW -M3 Whistle Head-" I saw a review for them were they played 3 different heads and I liked the M3B head the best. Did it say which head you received with the B-Stock?
2. Will the B's play exactly the same and sound the same? I know it says "Perfect in terms of sound and playability but with some minor blemishes, e.g. a small scratch, inconsistent powder coat." Is this really the case?

I like the sound of them on you tube and I can afford the B's, that is I will hopefully after my birthday on the 31. :)
I like that they do free shipping. Their Black Silk is gorgeous but outside of my price range.

It would be nice if they answered their email. I also tried posting on their site but nothing happens when I hit submit.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2020 10:09 pm 
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I recently bought a Howard Low D, Black Silk model. It's divine in every way. Free shipping to Australia (and the rest of the world).

I had no problem with communication, and received several emails from David O'Hagan. Currently they are shipping with the one head, but he informs me the other three are close to production ready, and he is just refining them now. I will certainly be ordering a full set. The review you saw was a prototype set, and she mentions that.

I believe the B stock are merely less than cosmetically perfect. When you see the Black Silk in person, you realise what an incredibly high standard of finish they have.

As to playing, it's a bit sensitive and you have to be careful not to overblow in the low register, but like all wind instruments, they have their own life and character and you have to learn how to adjust to each one. A fantastic instrument. Perhaps not to the exact taste of everybody, but it is my idea of Low D perfection! I have consequently retired my Chieftain V3.

In these complex times, perhaps they are having business difficulties, so don't be too hard on them re email. Give it another try.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2020 10:50 pm 
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Thanks!

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Black Silk model. It's divine
Too bad it's outside my price window. When you emailed them did you do it on their webpage? When I tried that using Firefox, chrome, or internet explore it let me fill in all the boxes (including math problem) but it wouldn't let me submit it. Nothing happened when I clicked the box, or double clicked, pressed enter, etc. I'll try my regular email again. When I first emailed him it was on the 12'th; probably before Corona? Who knows now how that will effect things. I hope everyone stays safe and practices their whistles in isolation.
I hope you wild fire dry season is over?

Thanks for responding;

Patti


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I bought a 'second' from them shortly after they acquired the brand, it came with the improved head.

I have never found anything wrong with it, mine is the black, it has a lovely tone, reasonably loud, (but may get lost in a session from what I've read), but I only play for my own pleasure, so no worries there. :)

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:24 pm 
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Can either of you tell me how long it is and how far apart the holes are?
Thanks. :thumbsup:


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2020 3:32 am 
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Length to the head tuning mark = 470mm
to the fipple blade = 502mm
to end of fipple = 540mm
top holes = 71mm apart (34 - 37)
lower holes = 53mm below top holes 74mm apart (27 - 47)
tube diameter = 24mm

All measured by eye.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2020 1:48 pm 
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Thanks Keith :thumbsup: I think it is worth a try. I f I stretch hard using pipers grip I can barely get it. If I try the pinky method for the last hole on end thats a lot easier. Maybe worth a try. I know perseverance and practice. I do like the sound of it on you tube.

Anyone ever try something like generic Tone-hole key for low whistles?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Tone-hole-key- ... SwFFtazexU


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 3:30 am 
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I couldn't play low 'D' whistles until my hand loosened up & my finger stretch increased, (after doing some simple stretching exercises), so it is likely you will be able to reach them after a little while of practicing.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 6:43 pm 
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fatmac wrote:
I couldn't play low 'D' whistles until my hand loosened up & my finger stretch increased, (after doing some simple stretching exercises), so it is likely you will be able to reach them after a little while of practicing.

I'll have to look up finger stretches.

David finally answered my email and was very helpful! I just placed an order for his 1 and only 1 B grade Black Silk Low D. He even said he'd hold it for me. Kudos to Howard whistles and David :thumbsup:

Now it's just like waiting for Christmas to come.


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All I did for stretching my fingers, was to put the hand face down on a table, fingers open, use the other hand to gently push a pair of fingers apart, I stress gently; this worked for me, after a couple of weeks I could just about cover the holes; from there it was just down to more practicing.

I hope you enjoy your new Howard. :)

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2020 10:13 am 
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maiingan wrote:
"Perfect in terms of sound and playability but with some minor blemishes, e.g. a small scratch, inconsistent powder coat."


Interesting that subject should come up, my best MK Low D was one like that.

I bought it from a guy who had bought it direct from MK. He chatted with Misha on the phone, Misha said something like "I have one with some imperfections in the finish, I can't send it out, but it's an exceptional player".

It was an exceptional player. Since I buy whistles to play rather than display I bought it as soon as it became available.

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