I received my newsletter from Phil Hardy today and it seems, the new Optimas will be available soon. Also the new High D. I am very much looking forward to that one, since it was announced last year. I hope it is not as loud as the old Thunderbird High D.
https://www.kerrywhistles.com/news
New Kerry High D whistle in the works
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Re: New Kerry High D whistle in the works
The photo of the new high D prototype looks very interesting. Can't wait to hear a demo.
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I wonder about the mix of materials. I once combined aluminium and brass. It didn't end well. In combination with humidity (not out of the question with a whistle, at least when it gets played) it will lead to contact corrosion. Not sure about copper but I don't think it will make a good combination either. However I'd have to look up the charts to find out if it's problematic. I have whistles that combine for example nickel silver and brass and it works fine. And I combined stainless steel (1.4301) with aluminium, which is also fine.
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Re: New Kerry High D whistle in the works
First soundclip is online:
https://www.kerrywhistles.com/post/cobr ... 001708f6d3
https://www.kerrywhistles.com/post/cobr ... 001708f6d3
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Re: New Kerry High D whistle in the works
Bi-Metallic Contacts - Galvanic Corrosion Risk:
"Bi-Metallic corrosion Galvanic Corrosion is the additional corrosion
that occurs when dissimilar metals are in contact in the presence of an electrolyte."
Table taken from here, where you read more details about this type of corrosion.
"Bi-Metallic corrosion Galvanic Corrosion is the additional corrosion
that occurs when dissimilar metals are in contact in the presence of an electrolyte."
Table taken from here, where you read more details about this type of corrosion.
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Re: New Kerry High D whistle in the works
Thanks for posting. Copper and aluminium shouldn't work when combined, unless one or both are somehow coated. So I think that might be a problematic mix but I guess Phil will have thought about it and applied some kind of coating.
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I like the look, sound and expressive range of that new high D whistle. Very good volume with low air requirement, with rich textured tone at all volumes. Musical!
Obviously Phil Hardy has arrived at some excellent mouthpiece designs via the Thunderbird and Optima. I'm not familiar with his earlier designs, I'm a whistle newbie. I'm guessing here off the first video of it, that the bore is a little wider than standard cheapo tin whistles, and if so, that's a feature I prefer, for the boost of tonal richness and volume. The whistle holes seem to be a good but standard size, so probably good for slides and half-holing. The notes on that demo sound very precise, and the windiness is low, totally absorbed into the tone.
The copper-with-aluminum issue > there's no source of increased electrical force, and maybe there's been extra attention to some sort of coatings, or to assure the aluminum has an oxide barrier. Over time, sweat, spit and humidity may (?) act like a corrosion facilitator between copper and aluminum, but to what degree? No doubt that's been dealt with.
Now let's Seymour online reviews and performances..........
Obviously Phil Hardy has arrived at some excellent mouthpiece designs via the Thunderbird and Optima. I'm not familiar with his earlier designs, I'm a whistle newbie. I'm guessing here off the first video of it, that the bore is a little wider than standard cheapo tin whistles, and if so, that's a feature I prefer, for the boost of tonal richness and volume. The whistle holes seem to be a good but standard size, so probably good for slides and half-holing. The notes on that demo sound very precise, and the windiness is low, totally absorbed into the tone.
The copper-with-aluminum issue > there's no source of increased electrical force, and maybe there's been extra attention to some sort of coatings, or to assure the aluminum has an oxide barrier. Over time, sweat, spit and humidity may (?) act like a corrosion facilitator between copper and aluminum, but to what degree? No doubt that's been dealt with.
Now let's Seymour online reviews and performances..........
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Re: New Kerry High D whistle in the works
Sounds similar to my Tony Dixon aluminium, which I think has a great tone - I'd like to hear a comparison when these become available.
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Re: New Kerry High D whistle in the works
What do you anticipate the price range for a whistle like this?
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The old Thunderbird high D was around 115€ in the non-tunable version. I hope this one will be a bit cheaper because of the plastic mouthpiece.
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I can't wait for this new whistle! I'm continually impressed with Phil's build quality and the tone and playability of his instruments. I'm particularly interested in the idea of low air requirements, back pressure, and volume. And yet you can blast through it? I've found this with Goldie whistles and really want it across my whole whistle key line but it's harder to find than you'd think. At the opposite end is my Killarney which takes almost no air, cannot be blown hard, volume is low, and the tone is (to my ears) extremely sharp and shrill. There's just no airiness to it. Personally I think the Killarney head on a wood body or thicker aluminum might beef it up a bit.
Maybe Phil's hit on the right combo in this new whistle? My pocketbook is complaining but I don't think I can resist trying this one out.
-Peter
Maybe Phil's hit on the right combo in this new whistle? My pocketbook is complaining but I don't think I can resist trying this one out.
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Re: New Kerry High D whistle in the works
More details on the construction:
https://www.kerrywhistles.com/post/wait ... 0018042104
https://www.kerrywhistles.com/post/wait ... 0018042104
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Re: New Kerry High D whistle in the works
Sedi wrote:More details on the construction:
https://www.kerrywhistles.com/post/wait ... 0018042104
Looks like we have an answer to the galvanic corrosion question ... o-rings.
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Re: New Kerry High D whistle in the works
Another update with some final changes to the design apparently. In the shop next month ...
https://www.kerrywhistles.com/post/cobre-update
https://www.kerrywhistles.com/post/cobre-update
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