It is currently Mon Dec 17, 2018 10:37 am

All times are UTC - 6 hours




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 12 posts ] 
Author Message
 
 Post subject: Aluminum body whistle
PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 1:06 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sat Sep 22, 2018 12:36 pm
Posts: 4
What's the overall opinion on aluminium bodies for a whistle? Never owned one or heard one except a few notes. Thanks to anyone who replies. I am considering a Dixon tunable aluminium.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 
PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 1:29 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jul 29, 2002 6:00 pm
Posts: 3863
Location: Los Angeles
I don't like them because the finish scratches incredibly easily, and aluminum also corrodes (oxidizes). Particularly fun inside the windway or a tuning slide.

_________________
International Traditional Music Society, Inc.
A non-profit 501c3 charity/educational public benefit corporation
Wooden Flute Obsession CDs (3 volumes, 6 discs, 7 hours, 120 players/tracks)
http://www.worldtrad.org


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 
PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 2:03 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sat Sep 13, 2014 1:20 pm
Posts: 83
Location: New Joisey
I have aluminum whistles by Bracker, Le Meur, Burke, Harper, and others. Never had a problem with any of them. In fact, they are some of my best whistles; nice tone, easy to play, low maintenance.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 
PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 2:18 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sun May 01, 2016 6:54 am
Posts: 74
I do have a few. Normally the oxidized layer on top should protect the whistle. Aluminiumoxide (also used as sapphire-crystal for watches due to its scratch-resistance) is rather tough but only forms a very thin layer. However over time oxidization can also destroy the material. I don't think I own any of my whistles long enough for that to occur however. I recommend getting the Dixon DX204 if you have any doubts about the aluminium. Really great whistle but the brass makes it rather heavy. Not nearly as heavy as the low D version however :D .


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 
PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 3:51 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Oct 10, 2001 6:00 pm
Posts: 7408
Location: East Coast US
Aluminum doesn't scratch (or dent) nearly as easily as brass. Brass might not show it as readily, but it's way softer. Aluminum doesn't oxidize/corrode any more readily than brass, either. If your sweat is basic, that will cause a problem with aluminum, but if it's acidic it will cause a problem with brass.

As for my opinion on the relative merits, I don't like that aluminum feels so light. I like the weight of brass, or a more heavy-walled aluminum like Silkstone.

_________________
Charlie
Whorfin Woods
Don't blame me, I voted for Cthulhu


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 
PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 4:29 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sun Mar 25, 2018 5:40 am
Posts: 182
I have a couple Low D aluminum whistles, an MK and a Kerry optima. They are very different despite both being made of aluminum. The Optima does scratch fairly easily. The MK is anodized and has a pretty tough finish.

I put "Neolube" and cork grease on the slide, works fine so far. Neolube is graphite powder in some sort of liquid suspension that evaporates quickly

Aluminum is a much better choice than brass for a large whistle, I think.

Put me in the camp that thinks the fipple and the column of air making the sound, not the material the tube is made from


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 
PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 4:43 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sun May 01, 2016 6:54 am
Posts: 74
Isn't the tuning slide on the MK brass? And you're right--making a low D from brass, at least when the material has the same thickness, is not such a good idea. That's probably why they stopped making the Tony Dixon low D trad. It's incredibly heavy (over 300 gr). It can get quite uncomfy for the thumbs after a while. However when you use thin brass like the nickel-plated Howard low D it will work. But not everbody likes the "organ-pipe"-sound of the Howard.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 
PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 6:10 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jul 10, 2006 7:25 am
Posts: 3964
Location: WV to the OC
I do most of my playing on Low Whistles and they're all aluminum.

I've owned some of them for several years and they're still as shiny as they were when new. (Or not so shiny; some come with a satin finish.)

They haven't got dull, or tarnished, or corroded. The interiors look like new also, no corrosion.

I think Low Whistle makers are more or less driven to using aluminum due to its weight.

For a while I had a "Chieftain Gold" (alas not made of gold, but solid brass) Low D and it was unacceptably heavy. My hands tired quickly, and I had to use a Bari Sax strap to support it.


With that Low D being so heavy, I don't want to think about how much my Low C would weigh, were it brass. And my three-foot-long Bass A in brass? It just isn't feasible.

_________________
Richard Cook
1978 Quinn uilleann pipes
1945 Starck Highland pipes
Goldie Low D whistle


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 
PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 2:09 am 
Offline

Joined: Mon Aug 14, 2017 5:47 am
Posts: 272
Location: Surrey/Hants border, England
Interesting, never thought about the weight difference, & I have only just got a Waltons high D, so can't really comment, but it doesn't sound much different to my ears, just a slight difference to my nickel & brass, whereas my ABS has a softer, slightly quieter sound.

_________________
Trying to do justice to my various musical instruments.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 
PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 2:17 am 
Offline

Joined: Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:23 am
Posts: 335
Location: Europe and Japan
I have had two Impempe aluminium whistles for years. One I play, the other I don't. They both look like new.
I have a low D Burke as well, but it's fairly new. I don't expect any trouble with the aluminium, and sure there are none so far.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 
PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 8:10 am 
Offline

Joined: Mon Jul 27, 2015 10:10 am
Posts: 205
Location: Middle of Virginia
I like the look, sound, and feel of aluminum. My aluminum whistle collection is made by Anak Whistles of Korea. They combine hardwood heads with satin aluminum bodies. They are beautiful, medium volume instruments with no clogging issues. Some people have said aluminum heads could clog easily. Some aluminum whistles are thinner and are very light, while others have more heft. Some are glossy, some have a satin finish. I prefer satin finish. Brass is heavy, too heavy for my liking beyond the high D, except for Jerry Freeman's Bb, A and G, which are light, handy, beautiful instruments. Brass takes on a a patina quickly that I
like. Aluminum stays looking fresh for a long time.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 
PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 9:23 am 
Offline

Joined: Mon Aug 14, 2017 5:47 am
Posts: 272
Location: Surrey/Hants border, England
I have Tony Dixon Trad A & G altos in brass, but I wouldn't consider them heavy either. :)

_________________
Trying to do justice to my various musical instruments.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 12 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 6 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 10 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
[ Time : 0.519s | 13 Queries | GZIP : On ]
(dh)